Public Sector. Good or Bad?

Going4TheDream

hallmark wrote: »

Not exactly sure what point you're making but to attempt to answer, IMO the Tories haven't cut nearly enough spending or nearly enough red-tape.

The "huge austerity" blah blah is a red herring mainly perpetrated by Labour. We're still spending an obscene collosal amount, much too much. I'd like to see the Tories make much deeper cuts but they are too scared so we're getting the current wishy-washy measures.

I believe that if they were in government alone and not a coalition with the Liberals then they may well have done that?

malcindebt

The_White_Horse wrote: »

clearly there is a need for a public sector. however, the current incarnation is too big, too inefficient and the staff are too well paid. their huge salaries are partly to blame for the housing boom in my opinion. it needs to be massively cut.

The majority of civil servants are amongst the lowest paid in the country.

Thrugelmir

Really2 wrote: »

Front page of our county newspaper today was a £70m PFI school will actually cost over £200m in payments.

By the next election PFI could be a major issue for Labour. Seems as if 20 odd NHS trusts that funded new buildings and facilities using PFI are in serious financial difficulties already.

CFC

MacMickster wrote: »

....hundreds of words, not necessarily in the right order...
Public sector good or bad? Neither – but necessary.

Your theory is totally wrong and was the fundamental fatal flaw in Labour's confused economic thinking.

Public sector, too big, mostly bad and mostly unnecessary. (Skip the usual suspects of fire police and nhs. Would rather skip teachers, overpaid and underendowed with common sense and magisterium these days, but we probably can't manage without.)

pqrdef

The_White_Horse wrote: »

clearly there is a need for a public sector. however, the current incarnation is too big, too inefficient and the staff are too well paid. their huge salaries are partly to blame for the housing boom in my opinion. it needs to be massively cut.

It's already happening. The councils have got big plans. Over the next few years, we're going to transform this country into a rat-infested rubbsih tip where old people die of bedsores.

Don't expect to see the roads gritted this winter or the potholes mended afterwards.

OptionARMAGEDDON

Less old people = smaller pensions bill.

pqrdef

And it's so easy to arrange, if we cut down their support system. They so easily die of neglect, one way or another.

OptionARMAGEDDON

They can always cash in some equity. Given the choice between a one way plane ticket to dignitas and a life of dementia dribbling pea soup, I bet most would choose the former.

gingerdad

malcindebt wrote: »

The majority of civil servants are amongst the lowest paid in the country.

Rubbish. The public sector are most defiantly not the lowest paid in the country.

nightwatchman

pqrdef wrote: »

It's already happening. The councils have got big plans. Over the next few years, we're going to transform this country into a rat-infested rubbsih tip where old people die of bedsores.

Don't expect to see the roads gritted this winter or the potholes mended afterwards.

People will do well if they start looking to their offspring for support on their old age and not the state. That’s the way things used to be here few decades back.

There are places in the world that there is a stigma simply by been looked after by a care home….

Be old folk in a home soon will be considered a predicament, as defiantly will not be nice place to spend your last days.