The Sunday Times today says most public sector workers are getting pay increases

RJP33

Cleaver wrote: »

I agree completely with the first bit. It's your second paragraph that confuses me, as there are loads of people sitting in the private sector either doing jobs that don't need to be done or surfing the net most of the day.

I agree there are, but that's up to those companies to sort out and if they can afford to carry passengers so be it.

The public sector is our company, UK PLC and as such we should be able to ask that everyone justfies their job.

The_White_Horse

MacMickster wrote: »

What type is that?

Police officer? Firefighter? Member of the armed forces? Doctor? Teacher? Judge? MP? Bin Man? Customs Officer? Paramedic?

Do you think that you could do without any of these types of people and, if not, do you think that they would cost less if their jobs were somehow privatised?

I take it that telecoms engineers, meter readers, water company employees etc changed the type of person that they were when their jobs remained the same but they were transferred from the public to the private sector.

It does take a certain type of person to repeatedly display their ignorance of any understanding of how the economy actually works on an internet forum about the economy. Are you that type of person perhaps?

always makes me laugh that whenever these threads come out, the teachers and police are rolled out.

why didn't you mention the umpteen managers, the diversity co-ordinators, the street scene whatever they are????

there are at least 20% too many employees in the public sector and possibly 50%. Teachers (most of whom are not up to the job) and police are clearly not in that bracket.

I got a letter from my daughter's school about literacy and it had two spelling errors. from the school. from the teacher??? still, I am sure she got her pay increase. maybe in 12 months she will learn to spell?

shortchanged_2

The_White_Horse wrote: »

I got a letter from my daughter's school about literacy and it had two spelling errors. from the school. from the teacher??? still, I am sure she got her pay increase. maybe in 12 months she will learn to spell?

You have kids? Please don't introduce them into the BNP like yourself.

Also don't forget The_White_Horse, you should always use a capital letter after a full stop.

sammyjammy

I work for DWP, we employ around 75,000 full time equivalent staff currently, we do not have incremental increases and have not received a penny increase in our salary each month since July 2009.

I think its disgusting that incrememental rises have taken place in other departments in last 2 years. a friend who works in another dept received a pay rise of £1,200 and a bonus of over £1000 this year whilst the department were making hundreds of redundancies.

Jimmy_31

Dan: wrote: »

I think the White Horse is a tad envious - I would bet he would jump at the chance for employment in the Public Sector!

Why, ive heard they are laying off:)

Going4TheDream

Cleaver wrote: »

I agree completely with the first bit. It's your second paragraph that confuses me, as there are loads of people sitting in the private sector either doing jobs that don't need to be done or surfing the net most of the day.

The difference is they are not being paid for by the tax payer.

Cleaver

Going4TheDream wrote: »

The difference is they are not being paid for by the tax payer.

If you read my posts you will see that I agree with this. I've said that again and again. It's quite right that the public sector should be lean and effective, we're all paying for it. And you're quite right that a private sector employee can do whatever they like, we're not paying for it.

I'm just saying that on here it's often implied that public sector workers are rubbish and lazy whereas private sector employees are beacons of efficiency and productivity. It's this view that I dispute. I've seen brilliant people in the public sector and rubbish ones in the public sector, and vice versa.

sammyjammy

Jimmy_31 wrote: »

Why, ive heard they are laying off:)

For now they are, same old mistakes will be made, let expensive and experienced staff take big early release packages or unreduced pensions from the age of 50, move forward 12 months, realise they cannot do the job required with the people they have and hey presto more recruits, we'll probably end up with more staff than we've got now.

The_White_Horse

shortchanged wrote: »

You have kids? Please don't introduce them into the BNP like yourself.

Also don't forget The_White_Horse, you should always use a capital letter after a full stop.

i don't bother with caps on forums. waste of time.

why do you mention the bnp? have i said anything racist at any point? of course not, it is just the hysterical lefties default put down.

please enlighten me...

FurryBabies

The_White_Horse wrote: »

there are at least 20% too many employees in the public sector and possibly 50%. Teachers (most of whom are not up to the job) and police are clearly not in that bracket.

I got a letter from my daughter's school about literacy and it had two spelling errors. from the school. from the teacher??? still, I am sure she got her pay increase. maybe in 12 months she will learn to spell?

So i presume that as you think the public sector is a waste of space that you send your children to a private school, have private healthcare insurance, take your own rubbish to the dump, put out your own fires, police your own street etc etc?

No??

Oh dear...