The Sunday Times today says most public sector workers are getting pay increases

The_White_Horse

despite the pay freeze.
Hateful thieves.
The Sunday Times says they get and increase "simply for having been there another 12 months"

Like i always said.

These people are the cause of the west's problems. In every country going to wall now (Greece, Ireland etc) they all have massive overbloated ridiculous public sectors.

We will be the same in a decade or so. There is no stopping them. We are a tree and they are an infestation of termites eating the roots.

We are doomed and the public sector are to blame.

They are destroying the economy.

Cleaver

I work in the public sector and my pay went up over a grand in December 2010 and will go up around two grand in December 2011.

OptionARMAGEDDON

Yep. 1K up in Feb and 4K up in april due to contractural allowance increases. Aint life a b*tch twh?

Other option is, they dont pay me my increase, I leave, got to work in the Middle East, and they have to fork out another £5 million to train a new guy, not to mention the cost of experience.

More to salary than meets the eye mate.

Cleaver

The_White_Horse wrote: »

despite the pay freeze.

There never was a proper pay freeze, it was just an empty slogan from the Tories. They said they'd freeze pay, which they kind of did by nt having the 2% (or whatever it was) cost of living allowance. But they still allow public sector workers to move up their payscale. So unless you're at the top of your scale you get a payrise each year. Bit unfair really as it means the most experienced nurses, doctors, teachers, police offers etc. are the ones not getting a payrise.

What the Torys should have done, if they were being honest, is said that we'll stop one out of the two payrises that the public sector get each year. And the one we'll stop will be the much smaller one.

But what they did was quite clever. Most of the public seem to think there is a public sector pay freeze so are happier, but those working in the public sector are still pretty much all getting a payrise of sorts, so they're happy. The key to politics I guess.

OptionARMAGEDDON

To be honest, this is my last pay point payrise, I am topping out on my allowance scale and I will be paying it back through 45% in tax anyhow.

If they cut the pay point and allowance increments, there would be serious, serious trouble. They are there for a reason, to try and match pitiful public sector wages with the civilian/private sector. If I left tmmrw, in 6 months I could be earning 30K more, for less responsibility and with less expectations of experience. I do what I do because I enjoy it, but that doesnt mean I will stick round if they start screwing round massively with pay. They are already nailing the allowances bill, to the point where people are saying "Im off". The problem is, they are trying to do it for the best reasons, but when you get your daily £10 for a newspaper and fone call back to the missus taken off from you when you are abroad in some sh*thole, you can bet that people are going to get pretty narked off.

IronWolf

Cleaver wrote: »

There never was a proper pay freeze, it was just an empty slogan from the Tories. They said they'd freeze pay, which they kind of did by nt having the 2% (or whatever it was) cost of living allowance. But they still allow public sector workers to move up their payscale. So unless you're at the top of your scale you get a payrise each year. Bit unfair really as it means the most experienced nurses, doctors, teachers, police offers etc. are the ones not getting a payrise.

What the Torys should have done, if they were being honest, is said that we'll stop one out of the two payrises that the public sector get each year. And the one we'll stop will be the much smaller one.

But what they did was quite clever. Most of the public seem to think there is a public sector pay freeze so are happier, but those working in the public sector are still pretty much all getting a payrise of sorts, so they're happy. The key to politics I guess.

Thats not true of all public sector workers though. There are plenty that dont have contractual pay rises and havent had any pay increase this year, including the department I work for

Cleaver

IronWolf wrote: »

Thats not true of all public sector workers though. There are plenty that dont have contractual pay rises and havent had any pay increase this year, including the department I work for

Fair enough, I didn't realise that. I'm pretty sure that the NHS and education have had pay increases, and I think my police officer friend is still getting incremental payrises.

Anouchka

I am a nurse in the NHS and I was very surprised to receive a pay-rise last April.

Cleaver

Anouchka wrote: »

I am a nurse in the NHS and I was very surprised to receive a pay-rise last April.

Really? It was fairly well known by everyone working in the NHS that the yearly cost of living rises were being scrapped but that the incremental payscale points would still exist and operate as usual.

Callie22

IronWolf wrote: »

Thats not true of all public sector workers though. There are plenty that dont have contractual pay rises and havent had any pay increase this year, including the department I work for

I agree - it's the same where I work. Our pay has been frozen since 2010, and is likely to remain so until next year. We've also been told that it is no longer guaranteed that you will automatically move up through the points in the salary scale.

pqrdef

The_White_Horse wrote: »

We are doomed and the public sector are to blame.

But at least they take the rubbish away. If they don't, the private sector just dump it in the streets.