Kia Ceed or Citroen C4

Kilty_2

Trebor16 wrote: »

They have to be manufacturer approved parts, not of comparable quality.

http://www.theaa.com/motoring_advice/general-advice/right-to-repair-campaign.html

http://www.blackcircles.com/servicing/about/block-exemption

http://www.vulcan-motors.co.uk/blockExemption.html

That's what I always thought was the case

gilbert_and_sullivan

This is the last paragraph from the excellent AA article, thanks for posting the links Trebor 16.

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''Although you are free to have your car serviced at whichever garage you like - and benefit from the cost savings - you can't then expect much help and goodwill from the manufacturer if the car develops a major fault just after the warranty has expired. Manufacturers often cite lack of loyalty on the customer's part as the reason for their decision not assist with the cost of a post-warranty repair.''

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One must factor in the possibility of after warranty goodwill into any decisions about servicing, if you go outside the dealer network then you can expect minimal help should an expensive fault develop after warranty has expired.
As always one should research the attitude of the maker to their customers, some value customers, others treat them poorly.

Flyboy152

Kilty wrote: »

That's what I always thought was the case

Don't you wish people would actually read their own links before relying on them to support their theories?

http://www.blackcircles.com/servicing/about/block-exemption

Thanks to this legislation, maintenance and service work does not have to be done by the main dealer as long as the garage uses Original Equipment 'Matching Quality' parts, and are recorded as such, and the garage follow the manufacturer's service schedules.

And you would normally hope that posters would actually verify the veracity of some reports as well.

http://www.vulcan-motors.co.uk/blockExemption.html

There is no legal stipulation that the businesses used are VAT registered and the BERs are hardly "a new piece of legislation."

Trebor16

Flyboy152 wrote: »

Don't you wish people would actually read their own links before relying on them to support their theories?

http://www.blackcircles.com/servicing/about/block-exemption



And you would normally hope that posters would actually verify the veracity of some reports as well.

http://www.vulcan-motors.co.uk/blockExemption.html

There is no legal stipulation that the businesses used are VAT registered and the BERs are hardly "a new piece of legislation."

Original equipment means the same as that used by the manufacturers. But you ignore the link from that little known and unreliable orgnasation otherwise known as the AA. How convenient.

Did you bother to look at the date of the Vulcan Motors article? It was 2005 so it was fairly new back then.:D

The bottom line is that if the parts are not manufacturer approved then it won't cut the mustard. Which blows your "comparable quality" totally out of the water.

KIAOWNER

I would keep away from Citroen, especially Diesel. I have just posted this on another thread:-

"My personnal opinion is keep away from Diesel especially Citroen, if you do low mileage. We have a Citroen C3 03 plate 47000 miles on the clock & in May 2011 the engine went. There was thick smoke coming out of the exhaust, power failed & it sounded like a bag of marbles (awful). Took it to the Citroen dealer and they put it on the diagnostic machine & they said it was the turbo censor, so we had that replaced all together that repair cost just short of £180.
Exactly 4 months later we had the same problem return:eek::mad:, so we took it back to the same Citroen dealer and they yet again put it on the diagnostic machine, this time it came back with injector No.1 faulty & it would cost just short of £500:(. We decided it's not worth it considering there are 4 injectors in total (will injector No.2 go in a couple of months etc...) will we end up having to replace them all eventually?
Considering it's only done 47000 miles on an 03 plate being serviced regularly it's frustrating. :mad:
So my opinion is keep away from Diesel Citroens as looking at Citroen forums it's happened to other owners!!!!!!:mad:

We have now brought a new Kia Ceed petrol ready to be picked up at the weekend, as our second car is a Kia we have had for 11 years now with no problems:D "

mutley74

KIAOWNER wrote: »

I would keep away from Citroen, especially Diesel. I have just posted this on another thread:-

"My personnal opinion is keep away from Diesel especially Citroen, if you do low mileage. We have a Citroen C3 03 plate 47000 miles on the clock & in May 2011 the engine went. There was thick smoke coming out of the exhaust, power failed & it sounded like a bag of marbles (awful). Took it to the Citroen dealer and they put it on the diagnostic machine & they said it was the turbo censor, so we had that replaced all together that repair cost just short of £180.
Exactly 4 months later we had the same problem return:eek::mad:, so we took it back to the same Citroen dealer and they yet again put it on the diagnostic machine, this time it came back with injector No.1 faulty & it would cost just short of £500:(. We decided it's not worth it considering there are 4 injectors in total (will injector No.2 go in a couple of months etc...) will we end up having to replace them all eventually?
Considering it's only done 47000 miles on an 03 plate being serviced regularly it's frustrating. :mad:
So my opinion is keep away from Diesel Citroens as looking at Citroen forums it's happened to other owners!!!!!!:mad:

We have now brought a new Kia Ceed petrol ready to be picked up at the weekend, as our second car is a Kia we have had for 11 years now with no problems:D "

thanks for your feedback.
i would have gone for a Kia but decided that the styling is a bit bland comapred to say the new citroen range or even other brands. Also the kia servicing charges are pretty excessive, 1st service is £200, 2nd quoted at £275 and 3rd about £225! Hence, IMHO i think one pays the extra for the 7 year warranty.

I have decided that Kia is not for me and back to looking at Citroen or even consider a Mazda 2 or 3.

jase1

With respect, was there any point to this thread?

If styling was your overriding requirement, this is something no-one can offer an opinion on. It's all entirely subjective.

I have always found French car 'style' to be chintzy and ugly. It's all subjective. Whereas quality can be measured.

mutley74

jase1 wrote: »

With respect, was there any point to this thread?

If styling was your overriding requirement, this is something no-one can offer an opinion on. It's all entirely subjective.

I have always found French car 'style' to be chintzy and ugly. It's all subjective. Whereas quality can be measured.

was there even a point to your post?

i was very interested in the ceed but after a long test drive decided its not for me. FYI i have learned some useful info from the other people who kindly replied to this thread.
have a good day.