Kia Ceed or Citroen C4

mutley74

Thinking for a while to change car. Thinking of either
Citroen C4 Diesel 1.6 (90bhp) VTR+ or possible Kia Ceed 1.6 Diesel 2 Ecodynamics.

I am attracted to Kia by the 20,000 mileage interval and 7 year warranty. But heard from a car broker that Kia stipulate that Kia cars must be serviced by Kia dealers and they are not cheap. Anyone know if this is true?

Benefit of Citroen is there is a dealer close to where i live, so easier to organise service etc. But put off why Citroens only have a service interval of 12,500 miles pa.
(BTW i drive over 15,000 miles pa)


any advice most welcome.....thanks

rexmedorum

mutley74 wrote: »

Thinking for a while to change car. Thinking of either
Citroen C4 Diesel 1.6 (90bhp) VTR+ or possible Kia Ceed 1.6 Diesel 2 Ecodynamics.

I am attracted to Kia by the 20,000 mileage interval and 7 year warranty. But heard from a car broker that Kia stipulate that Kia cars must be serviced by Kia dealers and they are not cheap. Anyone know if this is true?

Benefit of Citroen is there is a dealer close to where i live, so easier to organise service etc. But put off why Citroens only have a service interval of 12,500 miles pa.
(BTW i drive over 15,000 miles pa)


any advice most welcome.....thanks

under the block exemption rules you can have it serviced at any VAT registered place that can show they use original parts (not sure how easy that one is for KIA).

If it is 20k 2yr vs 12.5k 1 yr, we are looking on average at 0.75 vs 1.2 services per year. Lets assume the kia costs 150 quid per service at the dealer. That'll cost you 112.50 quid per year. Now lets assume your c4 costs the same per service. that'll be 180 per year. A whopping 67.5 per year difference.......

I don't know actual servecing costs but my point is: unless there is a massive difference in the cost per service, the effect on the total cost will be tiny, and easily recouped in other areas such as purchase price

mutley74

rexmedorum wrote: »

under the block exemption rules you can have it serviced at any VAT registered place that can show they use original parts (not sure how easy that one is for KIA).

If it is 20k 2yr vs 12.5k 1 yr, we are looking on average at 0.75 vs 1.2 services per year. Lets assume the kia costs 150 quid per service at the dealer. That'll cost you 112.50 quid per year. Now lets assume your c4 costs the same per service. that'll be 180 per year. A whopping 67.5 per year difference.......

I don't know actual servecing costs but my point is: unless there is a massive difference in the cost per service, the effect on the total cost will be tiny, and easily recouped in other areas such as purchase price

thanks for the comparison. I guess the difference is minor and if went for the C4 i could service it anywhere and probably do not need to stick to the recommended service schedule after 3 years.
welcome any feedback/advice if anyone has looked into these models before.

Kilty_2

mutley74 wrote: »

thanks for the comparison. I guess the difference is minor and if went for the C4 i could service it anywhere and probably do not need to stick to the recommended service schedule.
welcome any feedback/advice if anyone has looked into these models before.

Assuming you are buying the C4 brand new it's just as easy to void it's warranty as any other new car - why do you think otherwise?

mutley74

Kilty wrote: »

Assuming you are buying the C4 brand new it's just as easy to void it's warranty as any other new car - why do you think otherwise?

oops i meant after the 3 years are up.

Kilty_2

Ah right.

Still - scrimping on servicing is the last thing you should be doing if you drive high mileages, especially in a Citroen!

photome

That kia is way underpowered, if my memory is correct it is about 85hp, whereas the same engine in the non eco version is 113hp

Kilty_2

photome wrote: »

That kia is way underpowered, if my memory is correct it is about 85hp, whereas the same engine in the non eco version is 113hp

You mean about the same as the C4 in question?

Most eco diesels are "way underpowered" if you'd call 90bhp in a hatch "way underpowered". I can think of worse.

Trebor16

photome wrote: »

That kia is way underpowered, if my memory is correct it is about 85hp, whereas the same engine in the non eco version is 113hp

89bhp for the lower powered version, 113 for the higher powered one. I had the 89bhp version on a test drive for three days back in 2007 and it wasn't underpowered at all.

Billy-no-Money

My wife had some warranty work done on her Kia Rio when it was about a year old; she'd had it serviced at a local independent garage (VAT registered) after the nearby dealer went bust and there was absolutely no problem with the warranty.


(The warranty work was actually not needed - they changed a wheel bearing because of a noise - turned out to be the tyres )

Shotgun_Rider

Kilty wrote: »

Ah right.

Still - scrimping on servicing is the last thing you should be doing if you drive high mileages, especially in a Citroen!

Nothing wrong with the reliability of a Citroen. 11th most reliable marque in the UK according to What Car in 2010 and 15th in 2011. Beating all the major German manufacturers.

http://www.whatcar.com/car-news/what-car-reliability-survey-2010/alfa-romeo---kia/250839

http://www.whatcar.com/car-news/reliability-survey-2011/how-reliable-is-your-car/258307