Kia Ceed or Citroen C4

jase1

Looking at the way the trends have been going over the last few years, it's likely that the Kia will hold a higher percentage of its new price than the Citroen after three years. The days of Korean cars (other than Chevrolet) being depreciation disasters is well and truly over.

As for the cars, go for the one you like best. The Kia is more conventional than the C4, and seems to be better built to my eyes. Korean petrol engines are bulletproof but diesels in general are more of a lottery. Make sure you drive it well and often.

Kilty_2

mutley74 wrote: »

However, i do notice that Kia resale values do appear much lower than other manufacturers, although i hope to keep which ever car i buy for a few years.

As jase1 says, this is no longer the case.

Look at Cee'd values (it's had 7 year warranty since release) and post 7 year warranty Picanto, Rio, Sportage etc - residuals are strong.

Also bear in mind a £12k car worth £6k after 3 years is better than a £22k car worth £10k.

rev_henry

Kilty wrote: »

As jase1 says, this is no longer the case.

Look at Cee'd values (it's had 7 year warranty since release) and post 7 year warranty Picanto, Rio, Sportage etc - residuals are strong.

Also bear in mind a £12k car worth £6k after 3 years is better than a £22k car worth £10k.

I think its taken this 7 year warranty to start to persuade the very conservative British public that Kia, the brand they've never heard of, actually make good cars. Which they have from the start.

jase1

The British public did this with Japanese cars as well -- some folk still don't believe the evidence put in front of them -- it took the standard three year warranty (led by Mitsubishi) when all the Euroboxes had one year to persuade people.

Of course the Americans and Australians realised how good they were years previously.

Ironically years of multinationalism have conspired against the Japanese, and I'd go so far as to say that Korean cars are better than some Japanese cars now.

getmore4less

I found the pedel area cramped in the CEED could not get right foot comfortable.

Kilty_2

Of course Americans (not sure about Australians) buy Kia/Hyundai in droves too.

Ironic that the Americans that helped make brands like Toyota through sensible consumerism also helped damage them with the massive recall scare too (hyping it up I mean)

I love my little Picanto, cheap basic motoring at it's best. Would definitely consider buying another Kia in the future, or Hyundai (that new i40 estate mmmmmm)

rev_henry

Kilty wrote: »

Of course Americans (not sure about Australians) buy Kia/Hyundai in droves too.

Ironic that the Americans that helped make brands like Toyota through sensible consumerism also helped damage them with the massive recall scare too (hyping it up I mean)

I love my little Picanto, cheap basic motoring at it's best. Would definitely consider buying another Kia in the future, or Hyundai (that new i40 estate mmmmmm)

I quite like the look of that as well. Bit slow though, even the 2.0 petrol...

photome

Trebor16 wrote: »

89bhp for the lower powered version, 113 for the higher powered one. I had the 89bhp version on a test drive for three days back in 2007 and it wasn't underpowered at all.

Maybe I should have said it is underpowered compared to the non eco version, which it is, If I was getting a Ceed< I would get the 113hp 1.6 diesel...oh yes I forgot, I am getting it!

UncleZen

As a previous owner of a C4 (1.6Hdi 110bhp) and a current Kia C'eed 1/6CRDi (115bhp I think) owner I can speak with some authority.
I loved my C4, but it just kept going wrong, to the point where I'd spent £2300 in 2 years fixing it (2005 model); here some of the stuff that went wrong; Clutch broke, Air Intake system fell apart, Cruise control intermittent, anti-roll bar links needed replacing, anti-pollution errors, noisy EGR, hole in turbo pipe caused some anti-pollution errors but even after fixing it, they still recurred. To top it all off the turbo went. My local Citroen dealer was clueless. The list goes on but Id have to look up my notes on all the other faults. So I PX'd it for the Kia, it has about the same performance, but the engine is massively more refined, so smooth, a joy to drive, and it handles the road better, in the 1 year Ive had it I have knocking suspension fixed by the dealer under warranty. Servicing costs are about the same. No regrets.
One thing I do know is that the C4 experience has put me of buying anything French again.

rodenal

UncleZen wrote: »

As a previous owner of a C4 (1.6Hdi 110bhp) and a current Kia C'eed 1/6CRDi (115bhp I think) owner I can speak with some authority.
I loved my C4, but it just kept going wrong, to the point where I'd spent £2300 in 2 years fixing it (2005 model); here some of the stuff that went wrong; Clutch broke, Air Intake system fell apart, Cruise control intermittent, anti-roll bar links needed replacing, anti-pollution errors, noisy EGR, hole in turbo pipe caused some anti-pollution errors but even after fixing it, they still recurred. To top it all off the turbo went. My local Citroen dealer was clueless. The list goes on but Id have to look up my notes on all the other faults. So I PX'd it for the Kia, it has about the same performance, but the engine is massively more refined, so smooth, a joy to drive, and it handles the road better, in the 1 year Ive had it I have knocking suspension fixed by the dealer under warranty. Servicing costs are about the same. No regrets.
One thing I do know is that the C4 experience has put me of buying anything French again.

Whilst I understand your frustration there are no no issued you have had there that are any less likely to occur on any other car, especially the clutch and egr. Just your luck to an extent I suppose