What an absoloute joke!Benefit cheat,laxx town hall

black-saturn

I've reported a couple of people who I know are commiting benefit fraud but nothings ever been done about either of them.

Tran

black-saturn wrote:

I've reported a couple of people who I know are commiting benefit fraud but nothings ever been done about either of them.

Maybe they were investigated but were found to be doing nothing wrong?

In my case I have not changed my behaviour at all after these investigations (why would i need to, i have done nothing wrong?) and i haven't mentioned the investigtions to anyone so the *&^% who reported me may well think nothign has been done. I doubt they are bright enough to realise that nothing has been done because I ain't done anything wrong!

black-saturn

When I was on benefit I kept being reported for things I hadn't done too. Believe me I know these people are doing wrong. One of them is earning £500 a week and still claiming JSA and full Housing Benefit. I've got nothing against people receiving benefit for as long as they want if they want to but not if they are doing it fraudulently.

raq

I agree with all the above. Apparantely it can take up to 6 months for a report to call to the fraud line down to the investigation and apparantely they DO look into all cases. How ever much information they got about that person they will look into this.

The way that the country is going, higher interest rates, untilities bills continuing to rise and NO payrises more and more people are working CASH in hand as they say. Completely wrong I know as I am aware of someone I know who has been doing this for 10 years and still get away with it.

kelloggs36

You could ring the local DSS office who can tell you where the nearest office is with a Fraud presence - you don't have to ring the hotline! That would speed it up as they would look at it themselves and decide whether there is enough info to act upon. Many cases don't get investgiated because of the lack of information. YOu would not believe the hoops the Fraud Staff have to jump through to be able to actually do anything. There has to be really usefull info on the allegation such as on a living together case. Name, description of person living with them, details of car registration times he comes/goes from the house etc. Then they can get info from DVLA, do observations if they have specific times, if they have employer details, they can get info from there, but with very sparse info such as 'Mrs x living at 3 Made up Road has a bloke living with her' is not enough to go on. They need specific info that can be followed up. I'm not suggesting that any of you have not provided such specific info, but they have so many allegations that they cannot investigate all of them. That is why people keep phoning up to report the same because it looks like they haven't been investigated, and in many cases that will be true.

There's nothing you can do as far as the DSS is concerned about repeated allegations. You could only try the police and report these people for harrassment but they would need evidence that it was who you allege it to be as the DSS don't necessarily ask who is reporting them and they are not obliged to say either, so it may be impossible I'm afraid. But if you're doing nothing wrong then you've nothing to worry about.

Tran

kelloggs36 wrote:

There's nothing you can do as far as the DSS is concerned about repeated allegations. You could only try the police and report these people for harrassment but they would need evidence that it was who you allege it to be as the DSS don't necessarily ask who is reporting them and they are not obliged to say either, so it may be impossible I'm afraid. But if you're doing nothing wrong then you've nothing to worry about.

Was this in response to what i wrote above kellogg?

I did approach the police and the guy (a sargent) i spoke to at the station office basically laughed me out of the building saying there was absolutely nothing I could do and he would suggest I get a few male friends to go "have a word".

I then spoke to the community police officer who told me that there was nothing I could do as the reports were anonymous so there was no real proof that who i thought was doing it, really IS doing it. It is merely suspicion. The community cop suggested i go back to him if the person reporting me does anything that could be classed as harrassment but i should forget about the actual reporting to the DWP.

After i have explained myself every tim the DWP come round I then tell the DWP exactly WHO it is (name, address, etc) abd tell them WHY i think they are doing it. However because they always report anonymously, they tell me there is nothing that cane be done other than them note it down that it appear to be malicious. I have even asked the DWP if there is anyway they can note on their system to actually ask the caller for their name - then they'll be able to see that the name i have given matches up and then they'll see that the reports are malicious.

seven-day-weekend

When I worked in Enforcement in Town Planning, people would report anonymously and then ring back to say noything had been done. Always something HAD been done and usually what it meant was that the person they had reported was doing nothing wrong.

Even if something WAS found to be wrong, there would be various forms of action that could be taken, most of which took some time. I have NEVER known the action be what the complainant wanted which was 'Go in and tear his fence (building, structure) down'. That was because we had to work within the law. Therefore they always thought nothing had been done.

Llyllyll

flufff wrote:

Trust me they are doing this full time.Making around £500 each per week.Rent nicely paid on top.
Any suggestions any government dept that will actually bother to go out and investigate?
I intend taking photos everyday to send to press taxman and town hall.
If they see me they will hide vehicle as have done before tbh time is off the essence.

You could also try: https://www.taxevasionhotline.co.uk/

welshcakes

A casual friend of mine who has worked for Inland Revenue for some years commented that the taxman doesn't have the resources to investigate minor fraud - they're too busy investigating the backlog of big leaguers, mainly companies and very high earners etc.

Of course, it's worth a go but like every other 'hotline', there are too many cases, too much red tape and too few staff.

raq

welshcakes wrote:

A casual friend of mine who has worked for Inland Revenue for some years commented that the taxman doesn't have the resources to investigate minor fraud - they're too busy investigating the backlog of big leaguers, mainly companies and very high earners etc.

Of course, it's worth a go but like every other 'hotline', there are too many cases, too much red tape and too few staff.

Joke then at the end of the day. Why are the Inland Revenue spending thousands of pounds advertising everywhere you go lately. Making sure these people are caught because it just isn't fair. You add up 10 years of benefit fraud claiming for single person when they have had their other half living with them all this time...