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ASDA : Entrance parking for low emission cars (vent)

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  • MamaMoo_2
    MamaMoo_2 Posts: 2,644 Forumite
    QuackQuack wrote: »
    Mmm. If they introduce that round here I may be tempted to buy a rusty old electric milk-float or old farm tractor for shopping........

    Or one of these ;)



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  • kalaika
    kalaika Posts: 716 Forumite
    Tangible wrote: »
    Placing a massive slab of tarmac over land is a terrific way to demonstrate your green credentials and increase the local flood risk.

    It's amazing how anything that is dressed up with an ecological motive is naturally deemed to exhibit moral superiority, even when the basis is blatantly flawed.

    Dig up the car park and turn it into a garden - now that would be green - fat chance :cool:

    Or they could stop shipping food from the other side of the world when we can produce it here (e.g. apples from South Africa, lamb from New Zealand, etc)

    They could advertise how green they are being and big up their support for local industry at the same time.
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  • HappyMJ
    HappyMJ Posts: 21,115 Forumite
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    kalaika wrote: »
    Or they could stop shipping food from the other side of the world when we can produce it here (e.g. apples from South Africa, lamb from New Zealand, etc)

    They could advertise how green they are being and big up their support for local industry at the same time.
    I'd rather they imported lamb from New Zealand. It's only done at certain times of the year when Welsh lamb is not available. It's cheaper on both the pocket and environment to fly it in than spend millions on huge freezers and running power stations to keep those millions of lambs frozen for 6 months waiting for somone to buy them in the off season. Same goes with apples from South Africa. We as consumers really need to buy stuff that is in season only but consumers want lamb and apples at any time of the year so there is a market for it. Otherwise, the excess lambs in New Zealand would then have to be frozen for the New Zealanders to buy when lamb is not available for them and they won't then be needing to import Welsh lamb.
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  • MamaMoo wrote: »
    Or one of these ;)



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    That's my daughters Pug 107.
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  • fluffnutter
    fluffnutter Posts: 23,179 Forumite
    I think supermarkets have their part to play in encouraging responsible behaviours in their shoppers.

    But this is going too far. It's ridiculous! Let's not forget that Asda's SOLE raison d'etre, its only reason for existence, is to make money. I'm all for charging 5p for a bag to encourage you to bring your own, but designating certain areas of the car park as 'low emissions only' is nothing short of smug, pointless (not to mention unenforceable) bandwagonesque behaviour.

    This isn't about changing behaviours. This is merely yet another spurious 'rule' to trap unsuspecting customers into committing an 'offence' so that the immoral shysters of private car park companies can try to screw more money out of people. Dressing it up as some 'green' campaign is disingenuous shite. If ever I needed (yet another) reason not to shop at Asda, this is it.
    "Growth for growth's sake is the ideology of the cancer cell" - Edward Abbey.
  • kalaika
    kalaika Posts: 716 Forumite
    edited 15 September 2011 at 10:56AM
    HappyMJ wrote: »
    I'd rather they imported lamb from New Zealand. It's only done at certain times of the year when Welsh lamb is not available. It's cheaper on both the pocket and environment to fly it in than spend millions on huge freezers and running power stations to keep those millions of lambs frozen for 6 months waiting for somone to buy them in the off season. Same goes with apples from South Africa. We as consumers really need to buy stuff that is in season only but consumers want lamb and apples at any time of the year so there is a market for it. Otherwise, the excess lambs in New Zealand would then have to be frozen for the New Zealanders to buy when lamb is not available for them and they won't then be needing to import Welsh lamb.

    I agree that doing it at certain times of the year is needed to fulfil the consumers' desire for products all year round (which is another issue in itself) and the alternative of Asda not stocking (e.g.) lamb for huge chunks of the year wouldn't make good business sense for them.

    My point (that I didn't really make previously) was more that they don't help their green credentials when they still ship food from afar when stuff *is* in season here. I live in Kent and have all kinds of great fruit and veg grown here. Yet I still see the supermarkets selling stuff from all over the world when I can (and do) go down the road and get in-season locally grown stuff that tastes better, is cheaper and there would be a considerably lower environmental impact if the supermarkets bought it as well (subject to being able to fulfil the quantites they would want, etc)
    No trees were killed to send this message, but a large number of electrons were terribly inconvenienced. - Neil deGrasse Tyson (@neiltyson)
  • Shouldn't the highest emission cars park nearest the doors? if it's for green reasons you don't want them driving round the car park, leave that for the low emission cars.
  • JimmyTheWig
    JimmyTheWig Posts: 12,199 Forumite
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    I would imagine that if you use your car just to go to the supermarket, etc, every now and again it would be much better for the environment to have a old clapped out gas guzzling car than let it be scrapped and buy a new one. Think about the energy that goes into making a new car.


    But...

    Is it more the point that they don't want lots of dirty engine fumes coming straight in the shop? There's a car park near us with offices down one side. They ask that people pull in forwards (where normally the advice is to reverse into a space) so that they don't get so many exhaust fumes in the office windows.
  • Just park there anyway. Not like they can fine you or anything.
  • aprildawn wrote: »
    " low emission vehicles only"

    SO ASDA only wants the new cars by their doors ??

    I don't see how they can enforce this as no car specifies on the outside what it's carbon emissions are anyway, but they also need to be specific as to what they mean by low. Do they mean only cars that have such low emissions they do not have to pay car tax or do they mean cars like mine that are in one of the lowest categories for car tax....which brings me onto my next point....my car is 10 years old and is generally considered a low emissions vehicle. I pay £30 per year for car tax as a result, so if the government view it as low emissions does this mean ASDA do too? Far too wishy-washy a rule to be enforceable in the slightest. They haven't even specified low carbon emissions - tell them that your car emits infinitesimally small quantities of platinum emissions and ignore them.
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