Disabled people into employment.

shellsuit

Gingham_Ribbon wrote:

Why? Are you looking for work?

:eek: Gingham!!! :rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl:

Gingham_Ribbon

My apologies.:o

Can I blame my hormones?

Fat_Boy

Have we got to the bit about his Mother/Girlfriend/Future Job yet?

shellsuit

Gingham_Ribbon wrote:

My apologies.:o

Can I blame my hormones?

Don't apologise!! That's one of the funniest posts I've ever seen!!!!;) :rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl:

savingsgirl

Gingham_Ribbon wrote:

My apologies.:o

Can I blame my hormones?

Dont you apologise Gingham - that was pure class xx

Barcode

studentphil wrote:

There are many barriers for disabled people getting jobs.

1 transport- fairly often there is no decent access to buses and trains for disabled people, and that is vital if they are to access jobs.

2 Many employers are frightened of disability and the costs in sick leave or extra equipment that might be required

3 A good number of people on disability benefits have pain issues that limit their ability to work.

I knew this thread was started by you before I looked at the username. Anyway.

1. What do you mean by 'no decent access'? I have a free bus pass issued by the council that I can use on the buses. The buses are wheelchair accessible, and there are screens which display in big bold letters the next stop, as well as a loud announcement. So, unless you're completely blind, deaf and paralysed, you can use the buses. And let's face it, somebody in this unfortunate situation, will likely be cared for at home and supported by family, social services etc. That's what disability benefits are for.

2. Which is why disabled people also have a duty to dispel prejudice. If an employer assumes I can't use the phone, I'll point out I need the appropriate equipment. With it, I can do the job as well as anybody else. And the employer is not out of pocket as there are various schemes which cover the costs of disability-related equipment.

JasonLVC

Thanks EdinburghGlass, not familiar with those previous posts.

StudentPhil. The only thing holding you back seems to be yourself. I cannot believe you cannot get a job anywhere. Go work for a local charity in their back office. Your'e obviously IT savvy which is more than can be said for most local charities. And by work, I mean get paid, not voluntary. You talk about 'choice'. Well strangely enough I want to be an astronaut but it ain't going to happen anytime soon and in the same way, you need to decide what you want to be in life and see if it is compatible with your disability. No point wanting to be a brain surgeon if you've got no hands so to speak - but that's your problem, not society and indeed almost everyone on MSE here isn;t happy with their choice of job/partner/salary at one point or another. But that's life.

If you can type, you can work in a call centre, sorting office, bank back office, shop or anywhere else with a computer - even from home. A council I did some work for had it's entire call centre operation run via VPN links to 5 staff's homes, two of which were disabled. So there's no excuse really.

Coming back to my point about being able to work, but not wanting to work. Two totally different concepts. by the looks of things, this is a well trodden topic so will try not to add to the posts.

studentphil

Barcode wrote:

I knew this thread was started by you before I looked at the username. Anyway.

1. What do you mean by 'no decent access'? I have a free bus pass issued by the council that I can use on the buses. The buses are wheelchair accessible, and there are screens which display in big bold letters the next stop, as well as a loud announcement. So, unless you're completely blind, deaf and paralysed, you can use the buses. And let's face it, somebody in this unfortunate situation, will likely be cared for at home and supported by family, social services etc. That's what disability benefits are for.

2. Which is why disabled people also have a duty to dispel prejudice. If an employer assumes I can't use the phone, I'll point out I need the appropriate equipment. With it, I can do the job as well as anybody else. And the employer is not out of pocket as there are various schemes which cover the costs of disability-related equipment.

Sure it depends where you live on the state of public transport access, in some places it is good, others bad.

I am not so sure about prejudice, it seems to me that when you go for a job you are naturally wanting something from them, so you can not go on a political mission telling them things as that will naturally get their backs up.

savingsgirl

studentphil wrote:

Since amongst government and society at general, having 2 million people on some sort of disability support benefits is seen as a bad thing.

How do we ensure disabled people get off state support and into meaningful jobs?

Who sees it as a bad thing? Are these 2 million people all unemployed? I wish you would back up your posts with some evidence rather than your own pre-conceptions

Barcode

It's not a political mission. All you need to do is be friendly and say 'If offered the job, I would need x,y,z to carry it out effectively'. If you don't disclose your disability, and are then offered the job, you may be in trouble that you did not supply the relevant information. It then costs the company time to either obtain the equipment, or find a replacement (and yes, if you lie, this is probably grounds for dismissal during the probationary period).

If it does 'get their backs up', do you want to be working for them in the first place?