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Scotland - Buy your alcohol for Christmas before 01/11/11 or pay more for it!
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How does the store know you're definitely over 18 unless you provide ID? They're the ones who get prosecuted and fined and potentially have their licence revoked if they sell to under 18's. You suffer no consequences so it is in their interest that they try their very best as a company to prevent their staff selling to under 18's. As it's extremely difficult to tell younger peoples ages this is the policy they've introduced.
If you felt humiliated or embarrassed at being asked to produce ID (been many years since I was asked but I often offer
) then don't buy your alcohol from Tesco. I always carry my driving licence in my wallet and I'm faintly astonished that a lot of people don't.
I think your missing my point, the law says you have to be over 18 to buy alcohol, the checkout person believed I was over 18 and that was never in question. The only thing in question was if I was over 25 or not.
Just to add to this, my partner who is the same age had ID and was actually the one buying the shopping anyway. Just because I was with her and the alcohol "might" have been for me, the sale was refused.
The way that tesco implement it, is to question if you are 25 or not, which is not the law only their policy.
My point being why question if someone is over 25 if they are clearly over 18?
I also tried to get clarification from the store manager on how the policy operates, but they had nothing in writing, which leads to even more problems, as nobody actually knows what they are doing, it is all down to personal judgement of a badly set up policy.
If they want people to carry ID everywhere, make it a law.
This is not always as easy as it sounds anyway, many people don't have a driving licence or even a passport. The idea of ID cards was quickly shot down by many, IMO this is just another way of sneaking it through the back door.
If you need to be over 25 to buy alcohol, make it a law.
BTW, I very rarely shop at Tesco since this event, I now shop at Morrisons which IMO is much better.0 -
No I'm not but you're not prepared to accept the argument that Tesco stores have a policy of not selling alcohol to anyone who appears to be under 25 without checking their age. This is to protect the store from employees who may mistakenly think that someone is over 18 and sell them alcohol and the store then gets prosecuted, fined and may loose their licence to sell alcohol. This happened to Tesco 4 times last year with bans lasting from 1 month to 4 months.I think your missing my point,
Store policy to protect itself from employees mistakenly selling to under 18's.the law says you have to be over 18 to buy alcohol, the checkout person believed I was over 18 and that was never in question. The only thing in question was if I was over 25 or not.
Correct.The way that tesco implement it, is to question if you are 25 or not, which is not the law only their policy.
See all of the above.My point being why question if someone is over 25 if they are clearly over 18?
They don't, they simply want to protect themselves against being prosecuted for selling to under 18's as that is illegal. BTW they don't have to sell you anything if they don't want to.If they want people to carry ID everywhere, make it a law.
The law is over 18s only but how does the salesperson know that you're over 18 unless you can prove it?If you need to be over 25 to buy alcohol, make it a law.
Good idea. Now Tesco have lost your custom because of their policy, but you can be certain that they'll have weighed up the lose of business between losing the odd customer who objects to being ID'd and the lose of business if they loose their licence for a few months.BTW, I very rarely shop at Tesco since this event, I now shop at Morrisons which IMO is much better.0 -
No I'm not but you're not prepared to accept the argument that Tesco stores have a policy of not selling alcohol to anyone who appears to be under 25 without checking their age. This is to protect the store from employees who may mistakenly think that someone is over 18 and sell them alcohol and the store then gets prosecuted, fined and may loose their licence to sell alcohol. This happened to Tesco 4 times last year with bans lasting from 1 month to 4 months.
Store policy to protect itself from employees mistakenly selling to under 18's.
Correct.
See all of the above.
They don't, they simply want to protect themselves against being prosecuted for selling to under 18's as that is illegal. BTW they don't have to sell you anything if they don't want to.
The law is over 18s only but how does the salesperson know that you're over 18 unless you can prove it?
Good idea. Now Tesco have lost your custom because of their policy, but you can be certain that they'll have weighed up the lose of business between losing the odd customer who objects to being ID'd and the lose of business if they loose their licence for a few months.
Why do you feel the need to disect and reply to each individual comment I have made?
I have told of my experience in Tesco, what is your problem with that?
Maybe, because as you have said you are not affected by this, you are just not bothered as to how it may actually affect others?
I know it is store policy, why you have replied stating that, I do not know? What I have said is Tesco staff seem to think that this policy is now the law, which it is not.
I do not mind Tesco asking ID for anyone they believe is under 18, that is the law after all. What I am saying, and what you are failing to grasp is, Tesco are asking people for ID, who they believe are over 18 but are not sure if they are over 25.
Why stop at 25, why not 30, 40, 60, 80 even? It is all down to personal judgement, I actually know people who are in their 30's who have been asked to produce ID, not to prove they are over 18, to prove to that member of staff they are over 25. I know people in their 50's who have gone shopping with their teenage children and been refused alcohol, because the teenagers didn't have ID even though they are just helping their parents with their shopping.
To be honest, I only came on here to let people in Scotland know what they have got to look forward to, because think 25 has been operating in my local tesco for quite a while now. If you cannot appreciate that, then that's fine by me.
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So anyway, is the OP talking rubbish or do I need to go and stock up at the end of October for our Hogmanay party?:j little fire cracker born 5th November 2012 :j0
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Is this 2 x non-Scots fighting above? Are you both drunk: 0
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albionrovers wrote: »Is this 2 x non-Scots fighting above? Are you both drunk:
No because I didn't have any ID when I went to tesco.:beer:0 -
G'wan yersel doll. I think the OP is a little confused about what legislation is being introduced.scottishchick27 wrote: »So anyway, is the OP talking rubbish or do I need to go and stock up at the end of October for our Hogmanay party?
Mike (a Scot)0 -
G'wan yersel doll. I think the OP is a little confused about what legislation is being introduced.
Mike (a Scot)
The OP also seems a little confused, not to say upset, that a store can refuse to sell alcohol, or indeed any item, to anyone they choose, or, if they wish, challenge them to prove that they are a certain age.
25 seems like a pretty sensible age as it gives a bit of leeway to staff to judge a person's age, rather than if someone is above or below 18.
If you don't like the policy, shop elsewhere.
All seems like a bit of fuss about nothing!0 -
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