Grrrrr my DS

Nicki

:rotfl::rotfl:

That would be devious! I don't think so to be honest. He is an honest little soul, and apart from anything else, I'm not sure where he would come across anyone who would buy it from him. The other kids his age will all have their own Oysters and wont care how much is on it as their parents will top them up, and he doesn't have a lot of opportunity to come into contact with adults without supervision.

Nicki

Xposted with spend less.

He does have rugby players thighs but also has a tummy and some incipient moobs. Not rolls of fat but definite love handles.

There is a range. I worked on the basis he was a medium build, as he doesn't look to me to have a large bone structure. The 12lbs is based on that. The BMI calculation recently was done using the nhs website. The October one was done by the nurse. His height and weight were different in October but the BMi was about the same. I am a great believer in doing things by eye as well as scales though. If he lost the tummy and looked fit and healthy, I wouldn't stress if he was technically a few pounds heavier than the ideal weight as I accept there are fluctuations. For example I weigh 10 and a half stone and I fit very comfortably into a size 10 at 5' 6". I have friends who are a similar height who weigh around the same and are a 12 or 14 and would rather be further towards the lower end of the ideal weight scale for our height.

Ravenlady_2

mildred1978 wrote: »

University educated or not, a lot of people don't understand it.

I would have thought it should be monitored, yes, but to be honest the way the NHS view child weight confuses me greatly.

Off topic (slightly) but my son (just turned 1) is 50th centile for weight and 75th for height. A friend, who shares the same health visitor and GP, has a daughter 2 weeks older, who has been off the top of the scale (by 20%) since she was about 3 months old. At 1 she weighs the same as the average 2 year old, but is within the normal range for height. Our health visitor appears to be unbothered (or dare I say impressed). I wonder at what point it will/should become a cause for concern..........??

My son is off the charts but following the curve about half a centimetre above the 98th centile for all measurements, however his height/weight/head circ are all in proportion with each other so the HV is not worried. He's just a big boy all over.

Caroline_a

My thoughts would be (for what it's worth) that he doesn't seem to be getting enough exercise. My girls are all grown up now, but at that age they played out all day, came in for tea, ate like mini-adults, had a bath and crashed out at around 7pm! Their days were spend charging around playing goodness knows what, running with the dogs in the garden, riding their bikes, etc etc. They were never still - even when it rained I can remember them getting their coats on and riding their bikes!

I don't think monitoring exercise is a good idea - it puts an end to it, so 'you've done an hour, that's enough' and then the child goes back to tv/pc and spends the rest of the day sat on his bottom. Walks are good for him, maybe borrow someone else's dog to give it a purpose, find a series of different activities to do, karate is all very well, but there can be a lot of sitting around waiting for the next bit of training. Swimming is good, you can spend a good few hours in the pool and he won't know he's exercising!

I wouldnt restrict his food so long as it's not processed or sweets, just make him move around more!

ViolaLass

Could you not register the Oystercard allowing you to transfer the balance to a new one if he loses it again?

System

I can't help but think if this thread was about a daughter there would be some responses warning of being careful of how you approach the subject as you don't want to instill such a negative associations with food to the point where they either end up starving or bingeing. I'm female and was very overweight at his age, everyone made a massive deal about it and when i went to secondary school i found it very easy to stop eating and hide it from my family. I lost far too much weight. I know its unlikely to happen and i'm sure you're approaching it in the best way possible but wanted to mention it as it can happen to lads as well as girls.

mildred1978

Ravenlady wrote: »

My son is off the charts but following the curve about half a centimetre above the 98th centile for all measurements, however his height/weight/head circ are all in proportion with each other so the HV is not worried. He's just a big boy all over.

My friend's daughter is average height but very very heavy. You can see from looking at her that she's very overweight. She's still breastfeeding - as often as 2 hourly - through the night and during the day she's always got something in her hand to eat. I worry that she's learning to ignore her 'full' feelings. She's not hitting her developmental milestones either. Crawling/standing/walking must be hard when you weigh over twice as much as you should.

But I seem to be the only one that's at all worried.

Lotus-eater

xXMessedUpXx wrote: »

I can't help but think if this thread was about a daughter there would be some responses warning of being careful of how you approach the subject as you don't want to instill such a negative associations with food to the point where they either end up starving or bingeing. I'm female and was very overweight at his age, everyone made a massive deal about it and when i went to secondary school i found it very easy to stop eating and hide it from my family. I lost far too much weight. I know its unlikely to happen and i'm sure you're approaching it in the best way possible but wanted to mention it as it can happen to lads as well as girls.

I sort of thought the same thing, it gets on my nerves when my sisters and Mum constantly go on about how fat they are and what diet they are on atm. Which is a constant for the last 20+ years.

I've asked them not to talk about it while my DD is around, do they take any notice? Do they Duck! My DD is only 8 !!!!!!, she's getting bombarded by it already.

tesuhoha

Just to butt in here, my son is very very thin. He chooses what he eats, and eats only when he is hungry. this is a typical day. Breakfast - 0ne slice of toast (white or brown) with peanut butter. Lunch, 3 sausages, 3 slices of bacon, fried egg, toast and baked beans, dinner the same as lunch or what we are having if he likes it, spag bol, curry, chilli, roast, stir fry, hm pizza, or shepherds pie. He doesn't eat sweets, always fills himself up but then doesnt think about food. He will leave food on his plate as soon as he is full. I have nagged him about his unhealthy diet but he won't change it.

The point is, he is thin and I think its his style of eating only when he is hungry and then not eating anything in between, he doesn't even consider food as he has too much to think about but he does eat what he wants when he wants.

Right now he''s eating a chicken bacon sandwich with salad and wholemeal toast. He prepares most of his own food. I think the problems start when people start obsessing about food and thinking about it all the time.

rainbow81

Hi Nicki,

I found a link on the NHS about calories for children (as I mentioned in my previous post about being shocked at how much energy children actually need in order to grow I had a look in my OU book and found similar guides on the NHS website)...

http://www.nhs.uk/chq/Pages/how-many-calories-do-teenagers-need.aspx

The amount required does increase at the age of 11 so it maybe so that he can just eat as he did as a 10 year old and lose weight (or grow into it, rather) anyway. It is to be applauded that you don't want things to get any more difficult for him. I just think that this may be an age where a quite a few kids are on the chunky side, but with guidance, healthy food and a bit of activity with some treats thrown in, they adapt as they get taller. You have described how you and your friends are different sizes but the same weight and I agree that you can tell more if someone is overweight by using your eyes, rather than the scales.