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AlexLK

Sounds like you have an interesting group with some rather harsh views.... However, I wasn't talking about crime and punishment.

I most certainly agree it is a very dangerous and slippery slope, execution and not one I personally agree with.

AlexLK

beanielou wrote: »

Do agree with you.
It is a difficult decision.
Although I watched a programme about Broadmoor the other day & it costs about £330,00 per year per person.
That is a scary amount of money.

£33,000 per prisoner? I would love to know how!

kissjenn

I don't want to be contentious but I think you've both missed a zero.

You get approx three Broadmoor's prisoners per £1million.

Other prisons are about £40k per head.

New prisons to build cost around £120k per place.

So if you fail to pay £250 community tax arrears in Scotland, and you're a girlie we'll jail you, put the kids into social care and then pay for the psychiatric serves when you're out to try and stick you back together again.

So costs us about 100 times more than the amount owed to punish you.

kissjenn

Do you think that could be a business idea.

I offer to pay the fine and in exchange the state gives me 5 times the amount for saving them having to foot the full cost?

I could have Bugs Bunny as company mascot...he's a Loony Toon.

kissjenn

Cunning plan alert.

As you all know ad nauseum, SB's college stuff has o
Gone hairy pear shaped this year.

I am working on a number of things but found this tonight which I shall tempt him with tomorrow


https://www.canvas.net/twd?friend_code=4HYH8C

He loves The Walking Dead and if he can watches zombies and learn, unwittingly, about Maslow's Hierarchy of Needs etc, all the better.

And it's free....

Prospectus below in case anyone's interested


Course description

From understanding social identities to modeling the spread of disease, this eight-week course will span key science and survival themes using AMC’s The Walking Dead as its basis. Four faculty members from the University of California, Irvine will take you on an inter-disciplinary academic journey deep into the world of AMC’s The Walking Dead, exploring the following topics:

• Maslow’s hierarchy of needs—is survival just about being alive?
• Social order and structures—from the farm and the prison to Woodbury
• Social identity, roles, and stereotyping—as shown through leaders like Rick and the Governor
• The role of public health in society—from the CDC to local community organizations
• The spread of infectious disease and population modeling—swarm!
• The role of energy and momentum in damage control—how can you best protect yourself?
• Nutrition in a post-apocalyptic world—are squirrels really good for you?
• Managing stress in disaster situations—what’s the long-term effect of always sleeping with one eye open?

Each week we’ll watch engaging lectures, listen to expert interviews, watch exclusive interviews with cast members talking about their characters, use key scenes from the show to illustrate course learning, read interesting articles, review academic resources, participate in large and small group discussions, and—of course—test our learning with quizzes. We recommend that you plan on spending about two (2) to four (4) hours per week on this course, though we believe the course is compelling enough you’ll want to spend more time.

At the end of this course, you will be able to:

• Describe how infectious diseases—like a zombie epidemic—spread and are managed
• Apply various models of society and Maslow’s hierarchy of needs to existing and emerging societies as a means for understanding human behavior
• Analyze existing social roles and stereotypes as they exist today and in an emerging world
• Debate the role of public health organizations in society
• Describe how mathematical equations for population dynamics can be used to study disease spread and interventions
• Apply concepts of energy and momentum appropriately when analyzing collisions and other activities that either inflict or prevent damage
• Summarize multiple methods for managing stress in disaster situations

beanielou

I did say £330,00!!!

kissjenn

beanielou wrote: »

I did say £330,00!!!

Hi....there's only 3 zeroes each time that's £33k not £330k...I think that's where we've been getting confused?

Mara_uk7

Only costs £52,000 a year to keep an old person in a care home ...

kissjenn

Just think if people got the "Life means Life" that they so desire.

A 21 year old commits murder and lives 60 years.

No contribution at all to society but a price tag of close on £3m allowing for minimal inflation.

The criminally insane come in at around £330k per year.

Ian Brady was arrested the year I was born, his bill so far is £14,000,000 and growing.

California has spent more than $4 billion on capital punishment since it was reinstated in 1978 (about $308 million for each of the 13 executions carried out)

California spends an additional $184 million on the death penalty per year because of the additional costs of capital trials, enhanced security on death row, and legal representation. That's $90k per captal prisoner per year

The study’s authors predict that the cost of the death penalty will reach $9 billion by 2030.

Report of the California Commission on the Fair Administration of Justice (2008)

I've no idea what the answer is because I don't believe we even know what the question we're trying to answer is.

Buffythedebtslayer

Read a source with the kids this week about prison in the Middle Ages, you got put in till someone in your family could pay the (often ridiculous)fine. You didn't get food or water unless people visited you and you had a good chance of being murdered...

I don't know, I think prison doing something useful like sorting rubbish for recycling or taking apart computers for recycling would be good. They get a room and food in return for their labour and low low low wages are paid into an account to give them a start if they get out.

I do honestly think they are too soft on prisoners and that society needs to realise there are some very bad people out there who need punishment and it should be difficult and painful. so there.

Hope you are feeling good today KJ XXXXX