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~Avon Hints & Tips (Part 8) ~ Please read first post :)

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  • pixtotts
    pixtotts Posts: 895 Forumite
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    edited 7 October 2013 at 10:01PM
    2heartsx wrote: »
    Hey thanks for all your responses
    It gives me the option to order c1 and c2 should I order both or just one of the campaigns?
    contacted my sales leader today she said the the new application terroity system is under matinentince and is up and running tomoz, anyone hopefully I get set a area tomoz or I'm just going find a street myself tomorrow.

    its up to you really
    I ordered both of the next two for me, 15 was my first, waiting for my 16 books still which will be my second campaign (but thats a whole other issue...) and ordered my 17 and 18 because I'm inpatient and just cant wait to have a look through :D but plan on ordering just the next one ahead of time in future...
    oh this is making no sense is it... when I'm on 17 i plan on ordering 1, 18 order 2, 1 order 3... Uhh if that made any sense? sorry I'm tired and I'm not sure it does lol


    seriously advise against "just finding a street yourself"! how would you like it if you get given a street then a new rep joins gets bored of waiting goes trying to canvas your street... It really upsets people :(
    go round your friends and family, the neighbours your friends with in the mean time but no knocking on strangers doors please its bad mannors...
    x
    I hope you know your capable, & brave, & significant.
    even when it feels like your not....
  • 2heartsx
    2heartsx Posts: 36 Forumite
    pixtotts wrote: »
    its up to you really
    I ordered both of the next two for me, 15 was my first, waiting for my 16 books still which will be my second campaign (but thats a whole other issue...) and ordered my 17 and 18 because I'm inpatient and just cant wait to have a look through :D but plan on ordering just the next one ahead of time in future...
    oh this is making no sense is it... when I'm on 17 i plan on ordering 1, 18 order 2, 1 order 3... Uhh if that made any sense? sorry I'm tired and I'm not sure it does lol


    seriously advise against "just finding a street yourself"! how would you like it if you get given a street then a new rep joins gets bored of waiting goes trying to canvas your street... It really upsets people :(
    go round your friends and family, the neighbours your friends with in the mean time but no knocking on strangers doors please its bad mannors...
    x

    I just want to reach my target of 80 and my leader. doesn't seem to care, what happens if I don't reach my target.
  • pixtotts
    pixtotts Posts: 895 Forumite
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    edited 8 October 2013 at 12:43PM
    2heartsx wrote: »
    I just want to reach my target of 80 and my leader. doesn't seem to care, what happens if I don't reach my target.

    You just don't get commission. But you have to be over £10 to get the free delivery
    I hit my first one with just 5 orders! I thought I was going to miss it by miles but I ended up 17 pound over ...
    X
    I hope you know your capable, & brave, & significant.
    even when it feels like your not....
  • pixtotts
    pixtotts Posts: 895 Forumite
    Part of the Furniture 500 Posts Name Dropper
    Hmmmmmm how many times can you email/text someone before your pestering them?
    Still not heard back from my ASM about my C16 books! She was really quick replying last week now nothing :(
    x
    I hope you know your capable, & brave, & significant.
    even when it feels like your not....
  • toejumper
    toejumper Posts: 2,441 Forumite
    Part of the Furniture Photogenic Combo Breaker Mortgage-free Glee!
    sorry if this has been asked before but one of my customers has a faulty item but i cant find it on the replacement page in 14, would it just be easier to send it back as a refund and order another one as the replacement
  • susan6780
    susan6780 Posts: 334 Forumite
    pixtotts wrote: »
    its up to you really
    I ordered both of the next two for me, 15 was my first, waiting for my 16 books still which will be my second campaign (but thats a whole other issue...) and ordered my 17 and 18 because I'm inpatient and just cant wait to have a look through :D but plan on ordering just the next one ahead of time in future...
    oh this is making no sense is it... when I'm on 17 i plan on ordering 1, 18 order 2, 1 order 3... Uhh if that made any sense? sorry I'm tired and I'm not sure it does lol


    seriously advise against "just finding a street yourself"! how would you like it if you get given a street then a new rep joins gets bored of waiting goes trying to canvas your street... It really upsets people :(
    go round your friends and family, the neighbours your friends with in the mean time but no knocking on strangers doors please its bad mannors...
    x

    I used to be a sales leader with Avon. Do you get a book? If not you can assume that your street is free.
  • I,_Geek
    I,_Geek Posts: 831 Forumite
    susan6780 wrote: »
    Do you get a book? If not you can assume that your street is free.

    Even if it was free reps need to be allocated a street before canvassing it. It still causes problems if a rep canvasses a street that shows as free because it can be given to someone else later. This frustrates the other rep who's wasted their time and brochures. If they're a new rep it could go so far as to put them off doing Avon altogether, which means it's wasted their upline's time and money. If the rep stays on it causes extra work for the SL and ASM as they work out what's going on and decide who should be allocated the street.

    It's also not as simple as "if you've never had a book it's free". You could have had a book and forgotten about it, or your husband or boyfriend returned it or refused it before you even knew about it, if you said you weren't interested a while back the rep could have decided never to call at your house again, the street could have been allocated to someone just a few weeks before and they're getting around to canvassing it for the first time.

    In a nutshell: if a street isn't allocated to you, don't canvas it. It causes far too many problems when reps go "off grid". Avon spent a lot of money developing SMA and more creating the new DTMA so they wouldn't want reps to do something that renders that system pointless.

    If you suspect a street is free, by all means there's no harm in asking for it.
    I used to have my Avon turnover (sales) here. They've been removed because it's not appropriate to talk about those kinds of sales as if they're realistic for a new Rep to aim for. :( I signed up at the right time, right place, and was very lucky.
  • I,_Geek
    I,_Geek Posts: 831 Forumite
    Sorry to have gone off on a rant, but it really does have a ripple effect on so many other people if reps canvas wherever. SLs of all people should understand the consequences and therefore why Avon wants everyone (reps, SLs and ASMs) to work within the system they've created.
    I used to have my Avon turnover (sales) here. They've been removed because it's not appropriate to talk about those kinds of sales as if they're realistic for a new Rep to aim for. :( I signed up at the right time, right place, and was very lucky.
  • susan6780
    susan6780 Posts: 334 Forumite
    I,_Geek wrote: »
    Even if it was free reps need to be allocated a street before canvassing it. It still causes problems if a rep canvasses a street that shows as free because it can be given to someone else later. This frustrates the other rep who's wasted their time and brochures. If they're a new rep it could go so far as to put them off doing Avon altogether, which means it's wasted their upline's time and money. If the rep stays on it causes extra work for the SL and ASM as they work out what's going on and decide who should be allocated the street.

    It's also not as simple as "if you've never had a book it's free". You could have had a book and forgotten about it, or your husband or boyfriend returned it or refused it before you even knew about it, if you said you weren't interested a while back the rep could have decided never to call at your house again, the street could have been allocated to someone just a few weeks before and they're getting around to canvassing it for the first time.

    In a nutshell: if a street isn't allocated to you, don't canvas it. It causes far too many problems when reps go "off grid". Avon spent a lot of money developing SMA and more creating the new DTMA so they wouldn't want reps to do something that renders that system pointless.

    If you suspect a street is free, by all means there's no harm in asking for it.

    if a sales leader can't bother herself to allocate territory what is the rep to do in the meantime?
  • susan6780
    susan6780 Posts: 334 Forumite
    but its all this territory rubbish that made me disheartened with Avon, hence why I am on my last campaign
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