Depression

learning_to_drive

Morning chaps and chapettes.

Ltd's "Making LTD great again 2007" plan begun so well with financial crisis dealt with (from 9 direct debit's to 3 (1 is an ISA)) and paying off debts galore. I've sorted myself out with a nice lady friend hopefully, sorted out my personal problems and whilst being on anti d's still (stay on them even after im better, reading on Wiki) next appointment is end of march. Basically sorting everything out so that everything is set up.

My work is still holding me back, I have tremendous lows, from 10-12 then im ok, but I really dont like the night shift, I have no intention of doing many more, thats not a depressive thing, Im bored rigid and as a result im beginning to coast (as I invariably do, dangerous for me when i get bored) I got a warning for riding on pallet wheels tonight, stills from the camera, couldnt really say much, i took it on the chin, but it got me thinking that nights aren't for me. I am willing to do anything short term to sort myself out with a bit of cash.

Im fortunate that money is important, but due to my fiscal dealings I can afford to drop down money, to get back on days, Im not a night owl and I am willing to do anything until something that I have applied for (Morrisons / Barclays, Natwest etc etc etc) comes off and then I go there until anything comes off.

The job was always going to be the hardest thing to change, I have done everything in my power to find a steady away day job to complete the turnaround and enable me to earn a decent wage until September. However, short term I need to be off nights, Its affecting my health, Ive felt ropey for about 3 weeks, best way to describe it is when you are hungover and not had enough sleep, constantly thirsty and just feel sweats coming on and things.

Coupled with my back muscle weakness injury returning, this restricts me doing manual work such as retail because every twinge kills me and tbh my sickness record is bad enough recently due to the depression etc.

Again, Im trying so hard, but nothing is coming off at the minute, I want to be able to sort myself out whilst im on days, nights was good whilst I bedded in and sorted myself out. But now I need days and to complete the turnaround to normality.

learning_to_drive

Double post, I have no idea why, every time I post it says there is an error and refreshes, thus posting it again.

Btw, going into town to put a cheque into my bank account too, this means that I cant get to bed til about 12

Tiff_2

Hi ethel hun!:hello:
I'm sorry I couldn't get back to you last night angel.

EthelBloggs wrote:

hiya tiffy... as far as I'm aware there are no out of hours services apart from 999 who were too busy to attend.

I've just stoped them from bashing each other heads in with ornamental stones and stabbing with scissors, all my ornaments and things are thrown everhwere.
son has agreed to go n stay at my mums for tonight, see what i can do in the morning cos i can't cope with it.. one of my fingernails is ripped out whre i tried to separate them and they are both blck n blue
For the sake of reference hun, take a photo of the place and your children and even yourself. I say this because if the powers that be see the effect, then they'll be more compelled by pictures than words.;)

Oh hun, your poor hand - that must hurt like hell.:o
Ok, the good thing is that DS is removed from immediate danger.

ive seriously had enuff.
I know you have sweetheart but I haven't and neither have any of the fantastic guys on the thread. We can all try and get through it together hun ok? And I think you're right angel - it's time to get real help for all of you.
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EthelBloggs wrote:

my son is 14 and daughter is 16, he has no problems but she's very good at niggling and irritating and saying just the right things to make you want to kill but she does it in such a way that you can't put your finger on what it is she's doing, if that makes sense? ...
Makes perfect sense angel. Teenage siblings can sometimes be at it all the time without mental ill health being there too!

i'm going ot get on to the social worker first thing in the morning cos none of us can carry on like this.. I'll end up in the funny farm if it goes on much longer. I'm just so sick and tired of of it all.
At least if b/f had been here, this wouldn't have happened cos he'd have been able to step in better than me.. they're both way taller than me u see, and stronger soo... I'm about as much good as chocolate teapot!
The social worker is a good start hun. Although b/f would have been able to have separated them angel, it would probably have caused you more long term grief. Anyway hun, let's deal with the short term!;)

Right, I've been down into the Tiff Archives :rolleyes: and I found some links and suggestions which might help in your area angel, and also generally.
I'll start with the stuff you already know probably hun.:rolleyes:

- When your DD, or anyone, is in a mental health crisis, there is 24 hr, 7 days a week help available in all areas. You can access this help through:

your gp,
the duty gp,
social services,
duty social services,
the police,
your local community mental health team,
nhsdirect
and your A&E.


- You can contact your nearest mental health facility and call them, even out of hours, for help.

-A carer, or a gp, can ask for a referral to the Crisis Resolution Team via the mental health services or the above agencies.

-A crucial service that can be accessed via social services, and hospitals I believe, is CAMHS, which stands for Child and Adolescent Mental Health Services. They can intervene in a crisis & can co-ordinate the person's/DD's care.


Here are some agencies ethel that I hope might be of help to you. If their web links don't work, I'm hoping their phones will!

-MIND.
-http://www.mind.org.uk/

-www.ParentlinePlus.org.uk - phone free 0800 7836783

-The Family Welfare Association.
www.fwa.org.uk - phone 02072546251, Mon-Fri 9am-5pm.

-The Mental Health Foundation who work with children and young people & their carers.
www.mentalhealth.org - phone 02078 031100

-Young Minds.
www.youngminds.org.uk -
phone 02073 368445, open Mon 10am-1pm, Tues, Wed & Thurs 1pm-4pm and Fri 10am-1pm.

- SANELINE - 08457 678000

-Rethink National Advice Service.
phone 02089 746814, open Mon,Wed & Fri 10am-3pm and Thurs 10am-1pm.

-Young Minds Parent Information Services
phone free 0800 0182138, open Mon 10am-1pm, Tues 1pm-4pm, Wed 1pm-4pm and 6pm-8pm, Thurs 1pm-4pm and Fri 10am-1pm.

The Family Rights Group. Help with advice, advocacy etc. to families on dealing with social services.
-http://www.frg.org.uk
phone free 0800 7317696, open Mon-Fri, 1.30pm-3.30pm.

Carers Support.
phone 08088 087777, open 10am-12pm and 2pm-4pm on Wed. & Thurs.

I'd also say look through the very front of your phone book angel, for any other agencies listed under the info section.
As much as you love your DD and want to protect her hun, it seems like the only way to do this is to get her some secure help.
You've done so well ethel :Tand you wouldn't be letting her down. You'd be making sure she was safe and getting help hun. She seems to get more and more volatile angel, and you have to think of your son and yourself and what's best for DD.

A theme in the links I'm giving you is that with social services, you really have to persevere and get on their tails day after day if they are not getting you enough help ok?;) Remember to push the point to social services that they also have a duty of care to your son being safe in his own home and DD is jeopardising this.


I feel I must point out to you hun, that social services are very stretched & they will let you manage by yourself until you drop in my experience. That's why you have to hand them the problem firmly. As DD is 16, and children younger sometimes, the same mental health rules usually apply as they would to an adult.

Don't let them put you off angel with promises of meetings that don't happen or that do no good! You could actually arrive there if you were truly desperate sweetheart and say if you don't get any real help, you'll have no choice but to place her into their care immediately, to ensure her and the family's safety.

Ethel hun, I hope this is of some use to you. If you need more info sweetie, give us all a shout. Hang in there angel and I'm thinking of you (is that meant to be reassuring?!:eek: ). Take care hun. Huge Tiff hugs.
Much Love,
Tiff xxx

EthelBloggs

Morning tiffy

You're a star

I've used some of those services before CAMHS are good to the extent that they provide ongoing counselling, but they din't help much otherwise, a bit wishywashy if you know what i mean?

I'm just waiting for the social worker to get to work.. so I can collar her. We've actually got quite a good one at the mo but she's the assessement officer and wont be long term.. she talks the talk, time to find out if she's willing to walk the walk!

Sleep has not been my friend last night.. in the end I got up n had a cuppa, then went back and tried to sleep again, no joy so I've been moping around since about 5ish.. and yawning my head off now! I know how you feel now tiffy!

FRom what I can see... daughter has a fat lip and a bit of a bruise on her face (she's asleep atm so I can't get a proper look), dunno about son yet.. he's safely ensconced at my mum's house, no doubt being pampered and spoilt like a good'un, lol

Part of the problem is that they sent daughter home with no medication.. She has anti-psychotics and tranquilisers to calm her down. I've requested it several times but they've not delivered, there's always an excuse that the person who needs to write it up is not available etc etc etc

Poor cat has gone into hiding, he's in the house somewhre cos i can hear his bell, but I can't find him, he gets so upset when there's aggro in the house

You're right about suffering for b/fs intervention long term.. he'd have droned on and on and on and on about it.. so I didn't even tell him about it when he called to say g'night last night. He's gone to yorkshire with his friend so he's safely far away enuff not to do a surprise return, lol

I'm just sick n tired of not being able to have a normal life, hold down a job or even just get on with my studies, !!!!!!, they aint babies anymore and I shouldn't need to supervise them 24/7

Oh well.. let's see what today brings eh?

Thanks again tiffy xxxxxxxx

Tiff_2

Hi guys!:hello:
Just another quickie I'm afraid - hey! - I heard that sigh of relief - who was it?!:D

saz - i hope counselling went all right angel and that you're not feeling too fragile this morning. Thinking of you.

ethel - should have warned you about mega-post - sorry!:o

gem - how are you hun? You don't sound yourself.

rose - back to the dr time hun - you beat all this once, you can do it, I know you can!

l-t-d - how are you angel? Back later to dissect your post.;)

cc - are you feeling better hun?

Sorry guys but got to go. I send each one of you huge Tiff hugs and hope that today will be kind to us all.
By the way - is anyone else here getting the board in wide screen or is it just me?
Much Love,
Tiff xxx

Tiff_2

hi ethel hun!
You can get her meds out of hours via the duty gp, the hospital or via the local Police Surgeon at the station.
You hang in there hun - I'm off to look for the cat!
Much Love,
Tiff xxx

Horasio

Big hugs to Ethel, you sound to be going thro the mill

It ain't great here either.

He seems to think it's all in my head and not getting the point of where HE goes wrong. I have had years of counselling, had my operation to sort the health issue out, but he does something wrong, I tell him it has upset me, he gets abusive, then wonders why I'm really upset. He loves to play the guilt card, where my saying I don't like his behaviour is making him do things wrong. We have been together 25 years on Thursday and what I see is a marking of 25 years of sh*te. If he can't know me in 25 years, he never will.

If feel angry at why he looked at the internet !!!!!! too. Rather than try and sort our problem out, he decided to be sleazy.

The house is being so S-L-O-W to sell, we got another viewer yesterday but how can you tell they aren't BS you. If they come back, then it's more hopeful but not holding my breath.

I am dreading April when the kids are off school, the lighter nights etc. I hate it even more in the spring/summer here.

(((Big hugs))) to everyone here

rose07

Ethel

sounds like you are going through an awful time at the moment

luckily you have been given a lot of info by our tiff here, so i hope you can do something with it

musta been awful to see ya DD in such a state, do you get help? is there a support network around you?

I hope things improve for you

xxxxxxxxxxxx

:grouphug:

learning_to_drive

Quiet here today, off work now because of my back, doctor said to rest it, got some ultra strong painkillers so hopefully it will calm down.

Spent a lot of time applying for jobs today, need something to come off a.s.a.p as my current job isnt helping much, certainly with this back injury, its a recurring thing sadly that will keep coming back.

UKTigerlily

Well I got pretty bad last night & took myself to the A&E department of the closest hospital, all I wanted was for them to refer me to the Crisis Resolution Team, which only takes a phone call, but it took almost seven hours, during which time they said if I left they'd have to call the police as I was considered a risk to myself. I ended up having an assessment in the EDU (Emergency Decisions Unit) with two nurses from the CRT & the Psychiatrist & they finally let me go just before 3am. They're supposed to be getting in touch with my Dr to see about getting a CPN which they keep trying to do & to see if my medication needs adjusting. I hate my downers!