Neighbours complained, Landlord tells me i cant exercise in my own home...

Mind_the_Gap

ILW wrote: »

Might be better to just take a run round the block.

Ha! I was thinking exactly the same.

Or join a gym.

Francesanne

Would have thought o.p. using treadmill at 6pm isn't being anti-social or unreasonable. Could understand neighbours complaining if it was 6am but think they're just being nasty. Shame she's being the one forced from her home because of these newcomers but think that might be the best course of action. They sound mose unpleasant.

Norman_Castle

I can fully understand that using a treadmill in a flat could be a valid cause for complaint, but it would really annoy me that your complaints are being ignored while the other tenants complaint is being dealt with. Ask both landlords to deal with your complaints.

I have a similar problem with smoke from the flat beneath me. Filling the gap between the skirting board and floor with parcel tape has cured it. Looks a mess though.

Mind_the_Gap

Norman_Castle wrote: »

Ask both landlords to deal with your complaints.

No!

Neither landlord is responsible for their tenants' behaviour.

The tenants alone are responsible for their own behaviour.

Why do people keep insisting the LLs should sort it out?

The only kind of LL who might (in theory) be held responsible for curbing the anti-social behaviour of his tenants is the LL of a licensed HMO where the council make it a condition of the licence that he should be proactive over reports of disturbance, etc. Newcastle City Council include this condition, for example.

But these are not HMO LLs and it is Not Their Problem!

LAEllis

angelsmomma wrote: »

I had a treadmill when I lived in a flat and I would never use it if my neighbour was in. She used to work shifts so I would run the treadmill around her shifts.

She did not ask me to or complain it is just common sense to consider how it would sound below in flats. By the same token the man upstairs from me took his hobnail boots of at the door on his way in from work.

As to their leaving food in bags at the front a few photographs should make it possible to sort out with the landlords involved.

I have photographs and neighbours have seen and i think taken pictures too.

I am more than happy to use it at reasonable hours, i consider myself a reasonable person and would happy compromise, however they never gave me the choice. I just been 'banned' from using it. Apparently the LL asked the letting agents what he can do about me using it and they said he can what he wants as its his flat e.g. ban it.

darlyd wrote: »

You sure it was a noise of the treadmill they complained about? LOL

well there was 'that' too but i didnt want to kiss&tell and offend anyone

Francesanne wrote: »

Would have thought o.p. using treadmill at 6pm isn't being anti-social or unreasonable. Could understand neighbours complaining if it was 6am but think they're just being nasty. Shame she's being the one forced from her home because of these newcomers but think that might be the best course of action. They sound mose unpleasant.

im a he, my girlfriend is a she though....

Norman_Castle wrote: »

I can fully understand that using a treadmill in a flat could be a valid cause for complaint, but it would really annoy me that your complaints are being ignored while the other tenants complaint is being dealt with. Ask both landlords to deal with your complaints.

I have a similar problem with smoke from the flat beneath me. Filling the gap between the skirting board and floor with parcel tape has cured it. Looks a mess though.

wow thats bad, parcel tape? must look awful.

Mind_the_Gap wrote: »

Ha! I was thinking exactly the same.

Or join a gym.

Gym is expensive and i'd rather use my own equipment considering i already own it all.

Running outside is not good for me, i can only manage it about twice a week because of knee issues. The treadmill has an orthopaedic belt and great cushioning so its ideal for me. Concrete/uneven running = bad.

pimento wrote: »

So at what time were you using the treadmill again?

6pm. i do have days off you know...

abankerbutnotafatcat wrote: »

So basically, I sympathise. No one really wants the sounds or smells from other people invading their space. That includes tread mills. They generally don't sound like neighbours i'd like to have, they sound inconsiderate. I know it's not fair and you were there first and have done nothing wrong, treadmill aside, but you may need to move to resolve the situation.

unfortunately its looking quite likely, we now face the dilemma whether to move now or in 6 months time. That'd make it the end of Dec which im not too keen on considering the expenses that month and the renting market.

heretolearn wrote: »

Do you have trendy floorboards/laminate floor with no carpet? I suspect so if you can smell downstairs smoke.

These make life really noisy for the people underneath in flats and they have been banned from quite a few apartment blocks as they cause so much trouble. Even if you are putting a mat under the treadmill the noise is probably awful.

Ask your landlord for carpets and you'll probably solve two problems in once - their smoke and your noise.

Nope we have carpets, thread bare but still carpets. I think the flat split was a rush job it almost looks like its been partitioned off and that's it.

maninthestreet wrote: »

That's what I thought - it must sounds like a herd of elephants coming through the ceiling in the flat below. Perhaps the OP needs to trade in the treadmill for a static exercise bike?

I have a trax cycle trainer for my road bike that i can and do use indoors however i have had problems with knee ligaments and need to work on the stability issues that light jogging can help with.

btw i don't sprint on the thing, its only very very light jogging. That's not an excuse and id imagine it does make a bit of noise but i would like to make that distinction.


Just as an additional note, i only moved this treadmill in the day of the complaint. I had it stored at my fathers place and arranged for it to be brought round. They had no idea i had one unless they saw us bringing it in but yet they still said it was a treadmill that was making the noise. I really hope its not a jealousy issue.

Yorkie1

As far as the bags are concerned, it is clearly a health / vermin issue so if it is not resolved, contact environmental health.

As far as the noise is concerned, vibrations and noise will travel easily in flats, particularly if poorly built / created - and it appears that they are poorly insulated if the smoke gets through the floorboards. I also suspect that your contract will have a term in it relating to not causing a nuisance to others nearby. If so, you may just have to live with the request not to use it - or at least to wait until they are out of the house.

LAEllis

Yorkie1 wrote: »

As far as the bags are concerned, it is clearly a health / vermin issue so if it is not resolved, contact environmental health.

As far as the noise is concerned, vibrations and noise will travel easily in flats, particularly if poorly built / created - and it appears that they are poorly insulated if the smoke gets through the floorboards. I also suspect that your contract will have a term in it relating to not causing a nuisance to others nearby. If so, you may just have to live with the request not to use it - or at least to wait until they are out of the house.

I have been advised to contact environmental health. How does it work is it fine based? and would the landlords of the tenants be fined?

I had a look in the TA this morning it states:

4.4.2 "Not make or permit any noise or play any radio, television or other equipment in or about the property between the hours of 10pm and 7am so as to be an audible nuisance outside the property."

Does this mean I'm within my rights to use it?

I found this also:

4.4.1 "not permit or suffer to be done on the property anything which may be, or may be likely to cause, a nuisance or annoyance to a person residing, visiting or otherwise engaged in a lawful activity in the locality. This responsibly includes the actions and behavious of visitors and friends of the tenant."

its a little bit hard to understand, how do you define something as a nuisance or annoyance? birds in the morning annoy some people but are loved by others. how can something open to such broad interpretation be made a legal criteria?

RAS

LAEllis wrote: »

IApparently the LL asked the letting agents what he can do about me using it and they said he can what he wants as its his flat e.g. ban it.

Err no.

The LL has no right to "enforce" any unreasonable term in the contract.

And no right to add any conditions to the T&cs after signing.

Remember letting agents need NO training and many have no knowledge of the law at all.

When does your fixed term end?

LAEllis

RAS wrote: »

Err no.

The LL has no right to "enforce" any unreasonable term in the contract.

And no right to add any conditions to the T&cs after signing.

Remember letting agents need NO training and many have no knowledge of the law at all.

When does your fixed term end?

the original contract ended in July, we have a 12month extension added because we couldn't afford to move at that time with a view to terminate in 6 months when/if my partner finds her career job (SLT). at which point we'd move to a more commutable distance.

RAS

LAEllis wrote: »

the original contract ended in July, we have a 12month extension added because we couldn't afford to move at that time with a view to terminate in 6 months when/if my partner finds her career job (SLT). at which point we'd move to a more commutable distance.

So is there a break clause at 6 months? Does it permit both parties to end the contract then, or just the tenant?