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Neighbour Problems!!

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  • suited-aces
    suited-aces Posts: 1,938 Forumite
    Tenth Anniversary 1,000 Posts Combo Breaker
    edited 16 August 2011 at 10:27PM
    I would advise the old lady to take up golf and bat some balls over your fence to see how that plays out for you..
    Given the ten foot fence, I would be very very impressed with an old lady who could play that sort of flop shot! :rotfl:
    I'm not bad at golf, I just get better value for money when I take more shots!
  • i dont usually comment on other peoples threads, but felt i had to on this,

    feel extremely sorry for the OP, and some people some time may realise what snobs they are (or sound like), it is only a football into a garden,

    fair enough if who ever is kicking the ball is delibrately kicking the ball over or constantly kickin the ball at the fence causing damage etc.

    has this lady ever been hit by the ball? im guessing probably not, so if/when she does get hit she then has reason for complaint.

    i know what i would rather have, and that is a young lad playing football every now and again and the odd ball coming over, as opposed to a stupid noisy, s***ing dog.

    rant over
  • Clearlier
    Clearlier Posts: 168 Forumite
    My first post here but I've been reading for a while. This is one of the funniest threads ever.

    Bogof Babe - I think you'll find that you can't retain someone else possession because it appears in your property. A long time ago my bank accidentally credited me with money that wasn't mine. They couldn't take it back without my agreement but I couldn't keep it either. The neighbour has no right to retain the balls.

    OP - If you had a net up why not just replace it? If not, I'm sure that you can get poles which with a pulley system would allow you to raise and lower the net. Of course, you'll still get an 'adult' who'll kick it over some time! Might also be a planning issue I suppose.

    It's all a bit ludicrous to be honest. I imagine her as the kind to buy one of those houses in the U.S. which includes a landing strip for a private plane and then complains about the noise when people use it....
  • Bogof_Babe
    Bogof_Babe Posts: 10,803 Forumite
    Clearlier wrote: »
    My first post here but I've been reading for a while. This is one of the funniest threads ever.

    Bogof Babe - I think you'll find that you can't retain someone else possession because it appears in your property. Well if someone chucks a hand grenade in, I don't have to touch it! A long time ago my bank accidentally credited me with money that wasn't mine. They couldn't take it back without my agreement but I couldn't keep it either. Interesting situation - what if you had refused? There must be a legal precedent for this situation. The neighbour has no right to retain the balls.

    OP - If you had a net up why not just replace it? If not, I'm sure that you can get poles which with a pulley system would allow you to raise and lower the net. Of course, you'll still get an 'adult' who'll kick it over some time! Might also be a planning issue I suppose.

    It's all a bit ludicrous to be honest. I imagine her as the kind to buy one of those houses in the U.S. which includes a landing strip for a private plane and then complains about the noise when people use it....

    Well if someone owns a landing strip I'm sure they have the right to determine who lands on it! What a strange comparison to the football situation.

    Welcome to the boards btw. What took you so long? :)

    Also bemused by the poster suggesting that the time to complain is when you've already been hit by the ball. You might be a bit too concussed by then!

    Btw I'm not really the ogre I make out. I've always returned balls, and taken in parcels for absent neighbours, but I can quite see how irritating this sort of thing could be for someone who values their privacy and doesn't want to be disturbed. We have the right to be a recluse in this country if it suits our temperament!
    :D I haven't bogged off yet, and I ain't no babe :D

  • pararct
    pararct Posts: 777 Forumite
    I would have thought most of those wanting to be recluse would have tailored there housing purchase accordingly to be in the middle of no where and with no neighbours!

    As has been pointed out above, if a street is full of houses that are large enough to accommodate families then it stands to reason there will be kids playing in the gardens of these properties. Kids play on swings, trampolines and from time to time kick footballs.. They always have and they always will!

    If an older person is of such a temperament so as not to be able to abide such behaviour then maybe they should look to sell their large property (which would free up much needed family accommodation) and look to live in a street filled with say two bedroom bungalows, which clearly are not suited for larger families.....

    Win win all round......:T
  • Clearlier
    Clearlier Posts: 168 Forumite
    Bogof_Babe wrote: »
    Well if someone owns a landing strip I'm sure they have the right to determine who lands on it! What a strange comparison to the football situation.

    Undeniably strange!:) The point I was making is that when you live beside a family home with a big garden it shouldn't be any great surprise to see the odd ball appear over the fence. Similarly if you were to buy the house beside John Travolta you shouldn't be surprised to discover that it's going to get very noisy when he lands his 747.
    Bogof_Babe wrote: »
    Welcome to the boards btw. What took you so long? :)

    Thanks. I've learned a lot from these boards over the past few weeks. I hope to be able to give a little back although I could perhaps have chosen a better thread to start off with. :)
    Bogof_Babe wrote: »
    Btw I'm not really the ogre I make out. I've always returned balls, and taken in parcels for absent neighbours, but I can quite see how irritating this sort of thing could be for someone who values their privacy and doesn't want to be disturbed. We have the right to be a recluse in this country if it suits our temperament!

    Well that's the point really. There are very few people out there who would behave as this neighbour is behaving. There's a little bit of give and take in pretty much everything that we do in this country and most people try to compromise and be reasonable. I don't see much giving on the part of the neighbour (as always with these threads though it would be really interesting to have the neighbour come on and put their side of the story). What's reasonable is hard to define. Clearly every 10 minutes would be out of order and if it never goes over there isn't a problem. The point in the middle is hard to pick out but 5 balls in 11 months doesn't come close to unreasonable in my book.
  • Woody39
    Woody39 Posts: 64 Forumite
    Tenth Anniversary 10 Posts Combo Breaker
    The net we "inherited" was on a rotton old fence (my boundary) that we had to take down as it was unsafe. Hence why the old lady fitted her own fence (before we moved in) on my boundary as she was more than likely fed up with asking the previous owners to replace it (and also to keep her dog from escaping). The fence in questions is 10ft ourside but about 5ft on the neighbours side as we are on a downward slope of a hill. I presume she had issues with the previous owners as he was an 18 year old boy who played football and had a couple of broken down cars in the drive way! As somebody mentioned in a previous post "yes" this is a family home with a good sized garden and so are all of the other houses. But in todays climate people are not downsizing there houses therefore alot of people here have no small children. Not many balls have gone over in 11 months and I just want to resolve it amicably.
  • wageslave
    wageslave Posts: 2,638 Forumite
    edited 17 August 2011 at 10:08PM
    Erecting a 10ft fence without planning permission is illegal and your neighbour could be asked to lower or remove it.

    You need planning permission to build a fence or wall 1 metre high where it is next to a public highway or public footpath. On other boundaries you need planning permission if it is more than 2 metres high.

    I would imagine that height of fence must block a fair bit of light from your garden. You would be entirely within your rights to ask your neighbour to lower or remove it. After all it is very likely interfering with your quiet enjoyment

    Off course, removing or lowering it would be quite expensive. And bringing it down to the required 2 metres would make it extremely low on your neighbours side.

    Hard to keep a dog in with that height of fence I would imagine.

    Neighbourliness. It is all about compromise:D
    Retail is the only therapy that works
  • Woody39
    Woody39 Posts: 64 Forumite
    Tenth Anniversary 10 Posts Combo Breaker
    Just measured the fence it is 5 ft high sitting on a 1ft kickboard. But because we are on a hill we have a small retainer wall 3ft holding back her garden as our garden is much lower than my neighbours. So the height between the bottom of my garden and the top of the fence is approx 9 Ft .... if that makes sense.
  • cheepskate_2
    cheepskate_2 Posts: 1,669 Forumite
    Part of the Furniture 1,000 Posts Combo Breaker
    edited 18 August 2011 at 8:55AM
    Why are you bothered what height her garden fence is? The higher the better.

    As an aside, i have had the daft neighbour that thought it was ok for balls to go wizzing by my and baby's head.

    As you dont know what it feels like, may i suggest you position your sons goals directly in front of your windows and see how long you are happy with him, sorry adults, belting your windows.As it will only be 5 times a year it may not bother you enough to change them back Only then will you have a bit of empathy with this old buddy.

    She is not asking you to not enjoy your garden, you can . Your son and adults can play in the garden, just don't let balls go in hers.
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