General discussion for (Tottenham) riots

adouglasmhor

Sirdan wrote: »

I presume the sword in question does not fall under S141 then ?

The law "Prevention of Crime Act 1953" which creates the offence of "possession of an offensive weapon in a public place" makes no distinction between S141 items and non S141 items.

As already stated S141 does not prohibit "simple possession" ,it covers supply,manufacture and importation.

Thinking about batons / truncheons ..I wonder if those who wrote meant for it only to include items that have a hand grip and are usually held at one end by that ...a smooth wooden staff would not fall under that then ? Just a thought .

One does fall under s141 but it fits in the sporting and re-enactment additional defences bit which only covers swords, the other is a hand made one from the 1920s so exempt.

You may be right about the hand grip, do you remember "death stars" being in the offensive weapons legislation? Quite right, no one should have a weapon that can destroy an entire planet.

adouglasmhor

lostinrates wrote: »

May I suggest, with no discourtesy intended, the truncheon measuring competition take place elsewhere?

sorry posted before i saw this

Kennyboy66

http://www.guardian.co.uk/commentisfree/2011/aug/10/liverpool-riots-mob-mayhem

This article is the best I've seen by far.

In summary - "mind blowing buzz of mob mayhem".

vivatifosi

StevieJ wrote: »

Some serious Manchester video coverage out there, one shows the guy setting Selfridges alight (full facial id), a couple more were like scenes from Robocop, no prisoners taken.

A man has now been arrested for this.

nicko33

adouglasmhor wrote: »

OK can you help me out then, would a Hanbo be classed as a truncheon under the act, 90cm straight wooden pole 5cm in diameter?

sounds a bit like a broom handle

STing

• the weapon sometimes known as a “telescopic truncheon”, being a truncheon designed to extend automatically or by hand pressure applied to a button spring or other device attached to its handle;

Really? Mine's 12 inches. Does that count? I'm rather fond of it.

Graham_Devon

Really glad to see that councils are looking to evict these criminals.

Though it begs the question, where are they going to live? They will have to be housed somewhere.

Also, theres an epetition running, with over 100,000 signatures for those involved to lose their benefits. The demand to sign has taken the site down.

StevieJ

Good old Ed, never misses a good baby kissing opportunity

Ed_Miliband Ed Miliband



I’ve been in #Manchester meeting 100s of people who are determined to get their city back on its feet. #riotcleanup

ChiefGrasscutter

Graham_Devon wrote: »

Really glad to see that councils are looking to evict these criminals.

Though it begs the question, where are they going to live? They will have to be housed somewhere.

Also, theres an epetition running, with over 100,000 signatures for those involved to lose their benefits. The demand to sign has taken the site down.

I think it will probably make 'em riot even more - and possibly burn down the council buildings - which come to think of it I might actually support.

ikati5

Two men sentenced to 16 weeks and 10 weeks custody for their part in the riots. Well that should teach them!!!!