DLA Troubles - ATOS liars!

deathvalleydemon

Anubis wrote: »

Out of interest, what where the 9 points for?

manual dexterity problems.. "not being able to do up a button"

Anubis_2

deathvalleydemon wrote: »

manual dexterity problems.. "not being able to do up a button"

Thanks for letting me know.

rogerblack

wantsajob wrote: »

Does DLA actually fund such help though? For example, someone has difficulty cooking and can only cook microwave meals. They get the low rate DLA of about £20 a week. I couldn't hire a chef for £20 a week.

There is a decision of the upper DLA tribunal which makes the point that the purpose of the cooking test is not to solely address if you are capable of cooking.
It's a general assessment of your care needs, you do not have to spend the money on that aspect of your care.

I'm at the moment awaiting an appeal on my DLA application, hoping for at least low-rate care, and while I have difficulty cooking, I'd probably use any cash for help in the garden, and general heavy lifting, as some of that is what's tiring me out most days so I'm in a state where I can't cook.

rogerblack

krisskross wrote: »

What a load of rubbish. How are fresh onions going to keep as long as frozen chopped ones? Fresh layered veg pot costs 80p in Asda. Would be enough for 2 meals. Got to be cheaper than buying the carrots,cabbage, sweetcorn, peas, etc fresh. I am the stingiest person around but I buy these as it is cheaper than buying the fresh veg and wasting some.

Todays shop (for the month) cost me 60 quid, delivered from tesco.
About 10 quid of that was reduced fruit.
Fairly large cabbage for a pound.
10Kg of potatos for 3.78
4Kg of onions for 2.36
4Kg of carrots for 1.52
3Kg of pork for 8.50

The onion, cabbage, potatos, are not refrigerated, simply the bags opened if they are plastic, and placed in a cupboard.

Some veg is not well suited to storage - however, onions will keep for a year if you keep them dry and out of light. A month is no problem.
Carrots similary.

Work out what's cheap. Plan meals around it.

Anubis_2

rogerblack wrote: »

Todays shop (for the month) cost me 60 quid, delivered from tesco.
About 10 quid of that was reduced fruit.
Fairly large cabbage for a pound.
10Kg of potatos for 3.78
4Kg of onions for 2.36
4Kg of carrots for 1.52
3Kg of pork for 8.50

The onion, cabbage, potatos, are not refrigerated, simply the bags opened if they are plastic, and placed in a cupboard.

Some veg is not well suited to storage - however, onions will keep for a year if you keep them dry and out of light. A month is no problem.
Carrots similary.

Work out what's cheap. Plan meals around it.

Additionally, people can chop fresh onions and freeze them, same with carrots and cabbage - infact you can freeze practically any fresh vegetable, no need for any waste. You can even freeze potatoes, or make mash and freeze that

http://www.howtogardenadvice.com/harvesting/how_to_freeze_vegetables.html

Oldernotwiser

Anubis wrote: »

Additionally, people can chop fresh onions and freeze them, same with carrots and cabbage - infact you can freeze practically any fresh vegetable, no need for any waste. You can even freeze potatoes, or make mash and freeze that

http://www.howtogardenadvice.com/harvesting/how_to_freeze_vegetables.html

Freezing stuff is great if it's just come out of a garden. Not much point (nutritionally) in freezing stuff that's been picked over a week ago!

Anubis_2

Oldernotwiser wrote: »

Freezing stuff is great if it's just come out of a garden. Not much point (nutritionally) in freezing stuff that's been picked over a week ago!

Neither are the microwave carp that has been suggested nutritionally beneficial at all. However needs must and some do have their own garden. You can get fresh deliveries to your door from local farmers that have been picked in the last 24 hours too.

clemmatis

krisskross wrote: »

What a load of rubbish. How are fresh onions going to keep as long as frozen chopped ones? Fresh layered veg pot costs 80p in Asda. Would be enough for 2 meals. Got to be cheaper than buying the carrots,cabbage, sweetcorn, peas, etc fresh. I am the stingiest person around but I buy these as it is cheaper than buying the fresh veg and wasting some.

I grow a lot of my own veg but purely for the taste. They end up more expensive than supermarket stuff.

Fresh onions, and other root vegetables, keep for a very long time, properly stored. But I shouldn't have said "frozen chopped onions" as the ones I used to buy, which cost at least twice as much as fresh (unchopped) onions, and had to be used within a couple of days after being opened, were probably chilled. I've never seen chopped onions in freezer cabinets, and can't find them listed in supermarkets.

I've never seen a layered veg pot that cheap -- I've never seen microwaveable veg that cheap.

Oldernotwiser wrote:

But costs more than what? You're talking as if non disabled people don't use these things, whereas obviously many of them do.

COSTS MORE THAN THE CHEAPER FOOD I WOULD BUY IF I WERE NOT DISABLED, I DIDN'T EVEN USE A MICROWAVE BEFORE THEN, OR BUY READY MEALS. I WOULD NEVER HAVE USED MICROWAVEABLE RICE.

THERE ARE EXTRA COSTS FOR DISABLED PEOPLE, ALL ELSE BEING EQUAL.

THAT PEOPLE WHO ARE NOT DISABLED BUY READY MEALS AND MICROWAVEABLE RICE IS IRRELEVANT.

AND -- AS APPARENTLY NEEDS TO BE SAID YET AGAIN -- THE DLA LRC FOR PEOPLE WHO CAN'T PASS THE COOKING TEST WAS NOT ONLY FOR EXTRA COOKING/FOOD COSTS. THE TEST ACTED AS A GENERAL ASSESSMENT OF CARE NEEDS, BECAUSE, GUESS WHAT?, IF YOUR HANDS DON'T WORK, THAT AFFECTS A LOT MORE THAN COOKING.

BUT DON'T WORRY, THE TEST HAS CHANGED, NOW, SOMEONE WHO CAN ONLY TAKE THE WRAPPER OFF A READY MEAL AND PUT IT IN THE MICROWAVE WILL NOT GET DLA. AND SOON, THERE WILL BE NO LRC DLA.

krisskross

Anubis wrote: »

Neither are the microwave carp that has been suggested nutritionally beneficial at all. However needs must and some do have their own garden. You can get fresh deliveries to your door from local farmers that have been picked in the last 24 hours too.

Really? I live in rural Worcestershire surrounded by farms and have never seen such a service. Do they deliver in quantities sufficient just for 2 for a week and is this a free service? Perhaps you can supply a phone number or a website link.

krisskross

rogerblack wrote: »

Todays shop (for the month) cost me 60 quid, delivered from tesco.
About 10 quid of that was reduced fruit.
Fairly large cabbage for a pound.
10Kg of potatos for 3.78
4Kg of onions for 2.36
4Kg of carrots for 1.52
3Kg of pork for 8.50

The onion, cabbage, potatos, are not refrigerated, simply the bags opened if they are plastic, and placed in a cupboard.

Some veg is not well suited to storage - however, onions will keep for a year if you keep them dry and out of light. A month is no problem.
Carrots similary.

Work out what's cheap. Plan meals around it.

Well yes but I thought the issue was disabled people who are unable to peel, chop and cook from scratch. Thought we were looking for alternatives.