DLA Troubles - ATOS liars!

clemmatis

krisskross wrote: »

Well of course it would. I was simply pointing out that LRC DLA would easily pay for the provision of a hot midday meal.

Perhaps you'd like to advise the posters who are using Attendance Allowance to buy Marks and Spencer ready meals

https://forums.moneysavingexpert.com/discussion/3398376

given you don't seem to want to address the issues of

a) the normal unavailability of a healthy two-course meal for even five days for the price you give

and

b) the other care needs of people who "pass" the "cooking test"?

DaveHedgehog

I've received a letter today saying I will have to be assessed at a medical centre, can I still make a recording?

Hammyman

DaveHedgehog wrote: »

I've received a letter today saying I will have to be assessed at a medical centre, can I still make a recording?

I doubt it. You would have to seek permission from them to record it as it is their premises and their staff on their ground.

Cpt.Scarlet

DaveHedgehog wrote: »

I've received a letter today saying I will have to be assessed at a medical centre, can I still make a recording?

You can request that the session is recorded but the usual response is that it can only be done under DWP restrictions and at your expense.

You can legally, covertly record the recording, however, be careful doing so as if you are found to be doing so the "doctor" will terminate the medical and this may be classed as a no show which could affect your claim.

Oldernotwiser

clemmatis wrote: »

Fresh onions, and other root vegetables, keep for a very long time, properly stored. But I shouldn't have said "frozen chopped onions" as the ones I used to buy, which cost at least twice as much as fresh (unchopped) onions, and had to be used within a couple of days after being opened, were probably chilled. I've never seen chopped onions in freezer cabinets, and can't find them listed in supermarkets.

I've never seen a layered veg pot that cheap -- I've never seen microwaveable veg that cheap.



COSTS MORE THAN THE CHEAPER FOOD I WOULD BUY IF I WERE NOT DISABLED, I DIDN'T EVEN USE A MICROWAVE BEFORE THEN, OR BUY READY MEALS. I WOULD NEVER HAVE USED MICROWAVEABLE RICE.

THERE ARE EXTRA COSTS FOR DISABLED PEOPLE, ALL ELSE BEING EQUAL.

THAT PEOPLE WHO ARE NOT DISABLED BUY READY MEALS AND MICROWAVEABLE RICE IS IRRELEVANT.

AND -- AS APPARENTLY NEEDS TO BE SAID YET AGAIN -- THE DLA LRC FOR PEOPLE WHO CAN'T PASS THE COOKING TEST WAS NOT ONLY FOR EXTRA COOKING/FOOD COSTS. THE TEST ACTED AS A GENERAL ASSESSMENT OF CARE NEEDS, BECAUSE, GUESS WHAT?, IF YOUR HANDS DON'T WORK, THAT AFFECTS A LOT MORE THAN COOKING.

BUT DON'T WORRY, THE TEST HAS CHANGED, NOW, SOMEONE WHO CAN ONLY TAKE THE WRAPPER OFF A READY MEAL AND PUT IT IN THE MICROWAVE WILL NOT GET DLA. AND SOON, THERE WILL BE NO LRC DLA.

You don't win arguments by shouting, you know.:D

Oldernotwiser

Anubis wrote: »

There is also the issue of one meal a day is not enough even if someone gets meals on wheels. Are they expected to just have a main meal at say 5pm, then wait 24 hours before anything else.... They would have to buy in for breakfast and dinner, toiletries, washing powder and all the other things needed for the home, so the need to shop would be there.

Presumably, like everyone else, disabled people would shop on the internet. In addition, there can't be very many people who eat more than one cooked meal a day.

clemmatis

Oldernotwiser wrote: »

You don't win arguments by shouting, you know.:D

It is, you know, a little difficult not to shout when posters persistently ignore the facts presented to them, or, say things like

Oldernotwiser wrote:

But costs more than what? You're talking as if non disabled people don't use these things

("these things" = microwaveable rice, prepared veg, ready meals)

Oldernotwiser wrote:

, whereas obviously many of them do.

but let me reply without "shouting". and more briefly:

costs more than the cheaper food I would buy were I not disabled.

There are extra costs for disabled people, all else being equal.

That people who are not disabled buy ready meals and microwaveable rice is irrelevant.

(addendum) This is a very elementary point, of course.

cit_k

Hammyman wrote: »

I doubt it. You would have to seek permission from them to record it as it is their premises and their staff on their ground.

No, if your taking about a covert recording you can do it perfectly legally.

Can you imagine the likes of Rogue traders, watchdog etc asking permission to covertly record those people they suspect of wrondoings...

Just remember, as was previously said, dont let them find out, or they will halt the medical and your benefit will stop.

I would push for a official recording to, but not sure what the current state of play is for most people, it was easy until harrington messed things up.

mrnasty

Take it to a tribunal if you need, ATOS are terrible worthless money making scam masters (in my opinion) and don't deserve topic.

As for recording the medical (which i actually agree with you) yes you can record it, but I would of have put that in writing somewhere saying that you will record it - then they can't claim they never had notice.

The question is whether then it will be admissable as evidence at a tribunal or not, if you have given notice, it may be admissable but that would be up to the legally qualified chair person to rule or not.

Cpt.Scarlet

mrnasty wrote: »

Take it to a tribunal if you need, ATOS are terrible worthless money making scam masters (in my opinion) and don't deserve topic.

As for recording the medical (which i actually agree with you) yes you can record it, but I would of have put that in writing somewhere saying that you will record it - then they can't claim they never had notice.

The question is whether then it will be admissable as evidence at a tribunal or not, if you have given notice, it may be admissable but that would be up to the legally qualified chair person to rule or not.

RUBBISH

If you attempt to overtly record a medical without the permission of ATOS/DWP and the "doctor", your medical will be stopped and you will likely be classed as having failed to attend, which could result in the loss of your benefit.

Telling them in advance, in writing or otherwise, does not constitute an agreement on their part for you to proceed, nor would it make it any more likely to be accepted as evidence at a Tribunal.