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  • SeptemberBaby, Poppy is only 4 months old and I remember jack only napping for about 30 mins at a time then and I wondered the same thing. Once he got bigger and on solids I found his day naps got longer, but then I found he wouldn't nap in the buggy or car at all, so I had to resort to putting him in his cot for a nap, otherwise by the time he finally caved we were so far off our routine it threw the whole day out. He was mobile by 7 months old and never fell asleep unless confined to the cot, there was always something better to be doing. Even now he is the same, fights and fights sleep.

    I don't really want to be in this position with this one, so am thinking on having her downstairs for day sleeps in the moses basket or bouncy chair and as she gets bigger trying her in the buggy for naps, I don't know yet quite how it will pan out. I want to avoid her only sleeping in the cot, so we can get out of the house during the day, something i've been restricted to with Jack.
  • Mazcabs
    Mazcabs Posts: 2,108 Forumite
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    Hi there Septemberbaby. Henry is just about 4 months and he very rarely naps for longer then 20 -30 mins. Only time its longer is if he is car seat and even then that doesnt always follow. We use his pram for naps during the day or me on the sofa!!

    Had DS weighed today... 16lbs already and we think he is starting teething aswell, typical really now we've just got a better night time routine.
    Mum to 2 lovely boys who keep me busy.
  • tee_pee_2
    tee_pee_2 Posts: 1,674 Forumite
    Oooo I like tis thread, I ahve a little boy 6wks old and I am typing this absolutley knackered but keeping a low profile as my husband is ironing for me.

    At the moment I cannot fill my little one, Ia m literally breast feeding and then topping up with formula almost constantly. He was only a small baby and I have heard that "small for dates" babies can be hungry babies but this is manic. I can't compare it to my first as she was even smaller (2lb 13) and stayed in hospital for 8 wks.

    Anyone else constantly feeding?
    Also I am on iron tablets due to low blood count, would a low iron level affect the quality of my breast milk?

    Tee
  • Michelle, Charlie is 15-16 months isn't he? I think he is just a tad older than Jack who turned 15 months today. How did you drop the bottles and what does he drink his milk from now? Jack still has about 18ozs of cows milk a day in a bottle, which he can hold himself. I can't imagine him wanting to give these up for a while yet. He will have a beaker but that is where water comes from and milk comes out of a bottle. He still relishes with delight his milk and the cuddle that goes with it. I hadn't even thought about giving it up yet, but as per your point, I am now hoping he won't want the baby's bottle as when other people feed their children in front of him he isn't that fussed.
    Charlie is 16 months now. It is a really recent thing giving up the bottle. Basically we have tried him on a weekend for a few months now giving him his morning milk out of a drinking cup rather than his bottle. Up until last week he screamed and wouldn't do it, but he saw us giving my 2 year old nephew lots of praise for giving up his baby bottle, and then he gave up the same week. To be honest, charlie is fairly easy going when we have done things like take the dummy off him.


    He has been so cute this week. He keeps cuddling my bump, and saying 'hi baby', and i think he must have some idea what it means as he looks at a boots parenting magazine and then says baby at the pictures, and then comes to my bump.

    but then again, he has also been having a few major paddies and i have found it quite hard manouvering him. Mainly at bedtime as he knows that Daddy hasn't come home yet, but as DH wasn't home till nearly 9pm the other night keeping him up late isn't an option. I am just trying the distraction method at the moment.

    We've also had major nappy rash - bleeding and the lot, so i think i will be picking up some better cream.

    I am going to catch up with the thread now, as i haven't visited for a good few days.

    Michelle, x
  • PP I reckon when its time for Jack to go to playschool, this one will still be in her PJ's too. My ex neighbour said to me with her two and school, the baby was either dressed but not breakfasted or in Pj's but not fed. Isn't that what early morning milk is for, to tie you over for a hour or so? Oh and every Wednesday Jack is out the door with DH on his way to work and always leaves in PJ's and a dressing gown. He gets breakfast and dressed upon arrival :)

    Well... confession time, more often than not she isn't breakfasted either :eek:

    I'll get me coat and toddle off to the Bad Mothers thread then :rotfl:

    She's been getting up later and later now we seem to have cracked sleeping through the night (touch wood - it's been over a month now) so it's getting harder rather than easier to have her dressed and fed before half eight!
  • "She's been getting up later and later now we seem to have cracked sleeping through the night (touch wood - it's been over a month now) so it's getting harder rather than easier to have her dressed and fed before half eight!"

    Now your just making me jealous. And if your going to join the bad mothers club, i'll be right behind you......
  • Becles
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    It was probably me who said put baby down awake and let them fall asleep themselves! I've done that with all mine and it works great. It's even better when they get out of nappies as they just get up in the night, have a wee and go back to bed, without disturbing you. Both my boys have only woken me up if there is a problem like they're feeling poorly or had a nightmare or something like that.

    I've had a routine from birth. Daytime naps and nappy changes were done in daylight, with plenty of speaking/singing/raspberry's and eye contact on the nappy changes. I've still gone about normal daily business while they were napping so they had to sleep through household appliances going, TV/radio on, conversations, dogs barking etc etc etc.

    Bed time routine has always been a warm bath, gentle massage with the towel and gentle speaking/singing, then a milk feed in my bed, then into the cot awake. They've all slept in a cot in their own room from birth as I can't sleep if the baby is in the same room as me.

    Night time feeds and nappy changes were done almost in the dark (fit dimmer switches or leave the landing light on). There was no noise from me and no eye contact. It was simply up, nappy change, feed and back in the cot.

    When they were newborns it meant bathing at night (10pm ish). As they grew older, the bath gradually got earlier.

    All my babies have slept through for about 6-8 hours a night from 8 weeks, gradually increasing until they were going from about 7.30pm-7.30am at around 6 months old.

    At the moment Charlotte is 9 months. She normally does the 7.30pm-7.30am sleep on a night, and has a nap between about 1pm-3.30pm in the afternoon (when I do my uni study :D ).

    That's what has worked for me with my 3. I'm not saying it's right or wrong - just what I felt happy doing and what worked. It was a hassle bathing them late evening as tiny babies, but to me it has paid off by having easy bedtimes ever since.
    Here I go again on my own....
  • Agutka
    Agutka Posts: 2,376 Forumite
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    Erm... that sparked a bit of a discussion on routines. I think I'll steer clear for a while. For reasons such as if the routine is broken and I can no longer do what I was planning to do I would get irate. Little things like that really get to me :o. Like yesterday he napped constantly, poor thing just slept the day away. Today he napped 15 mins five times. How do I work with that? I'll give it more thought later. Anyway, it's not like I do any housework anyway :eek:

    I have just put the little man to bed (10.30pmish), awake and only loosely swaddled (nobody told me swaddling, which worked on him like magic was a temporary measure for newborns and my mum is having fits that he's going to get deformed if I don't stop doing it :rolleyes: ). Later than usual baby bedtime, but it gave us a whole evening with him. When I say us, I mean seperately. Keeping OH firmly in the doghouse - welcome back PMT :p :eek:

    On a different note, I do agree with FAC that the parenting thread is a little, well, like a private club. Although I probably get that impression with mums in general. The baby group I attend is okay, but after a few complaints from myself hubby came to the conclusion that I am being bullied by my NCT 'friends'. That's probably why I call them the female dogs! On the whole though it was the worst £200 we ever spent. Still gonna meet up with them though, don't meet many people any more... how sad is that!!:confused:
    :wall:
  • tsstss7
    tsstss7 Posts: 1,255 Forumite
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    :Dlol wait till you hit the playground nazi's (to you ftm's)

    I spent the first few years of my ds's schooling wondering what was wrong with me as I was always the only one not chatting about the latest washing powder in little groups at the end of the school day, it was only when I was leaving the area and consequently ds was leaving the school that I found out that other mums felt the same way.

    I didn't make the same mistake at the next school though and was rather more proactive in talking to people etc and it paid off (I took a leaf out of my ds's book he would never imagine that someone wouldn't want to talk/play with him wish I'd had confidence like that when I was younger!)

    Haven't managed to pluck up the nerve to start the baby groups yet though..the first time is always pretty hard for me...but it does mean however that I make a special effort with ither people in that position as I know how it feels...

    AGUTA have you tried a semi swaddle? Basically you swaddle below the arms - this provides some of the safe feeling but is better suited to an older baby who needs greater movement (as I am told)..think that is from Nanny knows best. :rotfl:

    My ds2 has conjunctivitis at the mo so a visit to the docs is on for tomorrow...about the most exciting thing I will do this week! :D
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  • Agutka
    Agutka Posts: 2,376 Forumite
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    tsstss7 wrote: »
    AGUTA have you tried a semi swaddle? Basically you swaddle below the arms - this provides some of the safe feeling but is better suited to an older baby who needs greater movement (as I am told)..think that is from Nanny knows best. :rotfl:

    The only reason I kept him swaddled was to keep him from dislodging the dummy from his mouth with his flailing arms in the morning, when he started stirring - the dummy gave us an extra hour or so. Mum's been suggesting this for months... At least he is now learning to keep hold of the dummy and is surprisingly good at replacing it himself. Better wean him off the swaddle - that way when he makes it into the cot I can use those grobag things.

    Hope the eye clears up soon!
    :wall:
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