You can refuse the Work Programme

Richardsct

I have been on the work programme for the last month and can honestly say hand on heart it has been the best thing that has happened since I became unemployed

the staff at my local office have shown genuine effort and enthusiasm to get me a job (just got me an interview, my first in along time)

if you are genuine, want to work, are a bit flexible you have absolutely nothing to fear, believe me no-one was more sceptical and suspicious than me!

Owain_Moneysaver

Red_Shoes_No_Knickers wrote: »

Excellent advice lovey, after all the DWP are allowed to pass on (limited) information to organisations to whom they have delegated responsibilities - the law says they can!

If the law says they can, then they don't need you to sign a consent form.

Not signing the consent form does not, therefore, prevent you from going on the Work Programme, so you're not refusing it.

LadyMissA

Richardsct wrote: »

I have been on the work programme for the last month and can honestly say hand on heart it has been the best thing that has happened since I became unemployed

the staff at my local office have shown genuine effort and enthusiasm to get me a job (just got me an interview, my first in along time)

if you are genuine, want to work, are a bit flexible you have absolutely nothing to fear, believe me no-one was more sceptical and suspicious than me!

can you tell me how they got you the interview?

wombles_forever

Sorry, but directing people to that website could be dangerous.

Anyone who cannot afford for their benefits to be stopped should not be considering doing anything like this. When I was on the New Deal programme I saw too many people having their benefits sanctioned because they thought that they were different from the rest of us and could get away with questioning anything and everything that they were being told.

Unfortunately 'he who pays the piper calls the tune' and unless someone is prepared to take this to the 'nth degree and proves that the DWP and the service providers are acting above the law (which I somehow doubt) then all you will do is succeed in doing is causing yourself more grief.

DebiT

dugdale wrote: »

Don't worry LadyMissA JCP would not hand over your bank details, DebiT is on a mission to stop people going on the work programme even though it is very likely that they would suffer financially by not participating.

I'm not on a mission to do anything.
I'm just informing some people who may not know that they do not have to give permission to these third parties for their data to be used, and they cannot be sanctioned for it.
What they choose to do with that information is their business, but I can't see why you seem so keen on people signing their rights away.

DCFC79

DebiT wrote: »

I'm not on a mission to do anything.
I'm just informing some people who may not know that they do not have to give permission to these third parties for their data to be used, and they cannot be sanctioned for it.
What they choose to do with that information is their business, but I can't see why you seem so keen on people signing their rights away.

like i said, you any proof to substantiate this claim that details are given to other people

LadyMissA

DebiT wrote: »

I'm not on a mission to do anything.
I'm just informing some people who may not know that they do not have to give permission to these third parties for their data to be used, and they cannot be sanctioned for it.
What they choose to do with that information is their business, but I can't see why you seem so keen on people signing their rights away.

so what has the outcome been for the people who have already not signed and not attended and wrote letters?

DebiT

DCFC79 wrote: »

yes that may be so but i asked for proof of it actually happening from the OP

What kind of proof do you want? The Jobcentre have your bank details from the moment you sign on - thats how they pay your benefit into your account. Also, one of the forum members on the site I mentioned goes into detail as to how his provider wanted his bank details.

Look, obviously youre not affected by this, unless perhaps you work for a provider and perhaps thats why you are you so bothered about people knowing their rights?

DebiT

LadyMissA wrote: »

so what has the outcome been for the people who have already not signed and not attended and wrote letters?

Well its still in its early stages, but so far the DWP havent been back to anyone, and until they do the matter is ongoing and no action has been taken by them or the jobcentre.

Some people have already attended their first appointment on the work programme, given in the letter (a copy of which they have also sent to the providers head office), and so far no action has been taken by the providers either.

It does state on the forms they ask you to sign that if you refuse permission for them to use your data you will not be sanctioned, so why some people on here are trying to scare others into going along with this hogwash is beyond me.

LadyMissA

DebiT wrote: »

What kind of proof do you want? The Jobcentre have your bank details from the moment you sign on - thats how they pay your benefit into your account. Also, one of the forum members on the site I mentioned goes into detail as to how his provider wanted his bank details.

Look, obviously youre not affected by this, unless perhaps you work for a provider and perhaps thats why you are you so bothered about people knowing their rights?

so in which case if I was asked by a third party for my bank acct details and they are NOT paying me then Id say no