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Nice people thread part 4 - sugar and spice and all things

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  • GDB2222 wrote: »
    When my wife and I go off together we wash dishes by hand, but at home there are 6 or 7 of us, and we use dishwashers. We have 2 dishwashers, so that we can separate the plates that we use for milk and meat. Personally, I'd prefer to go vegetarian and just have the one set of dishes, but we have some meat eaters in the house. (Yes, before you ask, two sinks! But only one oven.)

    You keep Kosher, then?

    Do you have two fridges? What about the Pessach sets of crockery and cutlery?
    ...much enquiry having been made concerning a gentleman, who had quitted a company where Johnson was, and no information being obtained; at last Johnson observed, that 'he did not care to speak ill of any man behind his back, but he believed the gentleman was an attorney'.
  • Poshness alert!
    :)

    Nah, Kosher alert (-:

    Can't mix meat / milk plates, pans, etc.
    ...much enquiry having been made concerning a gentleman, who had quitted a company where Johnson was, and no information being obtained; at last Johnson observed, that 'he did not care to speak ill of any man behind his back, but he believed the gentleman was an attorney'.
  • Oh, I know nothing of that. If I were asked to say everything I knew about kosher I'd say " er... there's meat, kosher meat".... and that's the limit of my knowledge. I'm 2% guessing that's Jewish, but not really up to speed with religious stuff at all.

    There's lots of things which aren't kosher to eat at all, such as pigs, shellfish, and so forth. You can eat it if it's a land animal which has a cloven hoof and chews the cud, or a sea animal if it has scales and fins, or a bird if it's the right sort (chicken OK, turkey OK, anything non-veggie not ok).

    If the animal is kosher, then the eggs and milk are, too.

    Meat from a kosher animal has to be killed in the right way, has to be a "perfect" animal, and no blood is allowed.

    You can't mix milk and meat in the same dish / meal / for some times afterwards. So you can have either cheese or beef sandwiches, never both, and no milk in your tea after a meat meal. No butter on meat sarnies, either. No lasagna.

    That's where the separate milk / meat ovens, fridges, dishwashers, sets of plates etc comes from.

    There are also special rules for other things, such as wine and olives. But a lot of people will keep the main rules, and not worry so much about these ones.
    ...much enquiry having been made concerning a gentleman, who had quitted a company where Johnson was, and no information being obtained; at last Johnson observed, that 'he did not care to speak ill of any man behind his back, but he believed the gentleman was an attorney'.
  • vivatifosi
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    I've had that smell appearing in my house, up through the drains.... luckily it was just the once. Never did anything about it as I had no idea how the drains were laid out or how many might feed into it .... and it didn't happen a second time.

    Thanks Pastures, that's reassuring. Hopefully will be the same here. I've been flushing water through the drains (via shower, washing machine etc), plus putting plugs in the basins is also stopping smell rising. I'd love to know who the numpty who caused it is though.
    Please stay safe in the sun and learn the A-E of melanoma: A = asymmetry, B = irregular borders, C= different colours, D= diameter, larger than 6mm, E = evolving, is your mole changing? Most moles are not cancerous, any doubts, please check next time you visit your GP.
  • tomterm8
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    edited 17 November 2011 at 9:44PM
    I think I would was it down the drain as quickly as possible, to be honest. Maybe empty a bath full of water down, and flush the toilets.


    kosher... maybe I'm wrong, but it seems different Jews follow different rules, apart from the main ones that you find in the bible.

    I'm tired, I've been learning about blackjack for no apparent reason. Who'd have thought there actually WAS a use for maths.
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  • LydiaJ
    LydiaJ Posts: 8,083 Forumite
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    Wow, that must have required some serious memory tests for your grandparents, on names / birthdays / A level subjects!

    The grandparents have all been dead for years. The grandfathers didn't get to see all their grandchildren born, let alone the great-grandchildren. Both were already dead by the time I was born. I'm the youngest of the 15 grandchildren on my dad's side, and the 3rd youngest of the 9 and 4 halves on my mum's side.

    My grandmothers died in 1989 and 1990. But then, if they were still alive today they'd be extremely old - my dad's mum would be 125, and my mum's mum would have just turned 116 last week.
    Do you know anyone who's bereaved? Point them to https://www.AtaLoss.org which does for bereavement support what MSE does for financial services, providing links to support organisations relevant to the circumstances of the loss & the local area. (Link permitted by forum team)
    Tyre performance in the wet deteriorates rapidly below about 3mm tread - change yours when they get dangerous, not just when they are nearly illegal (1.6mm).
    Oh, and wear your seatbelt. My kids are only alive because they were wearing theirs when somebody else was driving in wet weather with worn tyres.
    :)
  • LydiaJ
    LydiaJ Posts: 8,083 Forumite
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    tomterm8 wrote: »
    kosher... maybe I'm wrong, but it seems different Jews follow different rules, apart from the main ones that you find in the bible.
    The differences stem from different rabbis' interpretation of the biblical rules and teaching about how they should be implemented, AIUI.
    Do you know anyone who's bereaved? Point them to https://www.AtaLoss.org which does for bereavement support what MSE does for financial services, providing links to support organisations relevant to the circumstances of the loss & the local area. (Link permitted by forum team)
    Tyre performance in the wet deteriorates rapidly below about 3mm tread - change yours when they get dangerous, not just when they are nearly illegal (1.6mm).
    Oh, and wear your seatbelt. My kids are only alive because they were wearing theirs when somebody else was driving in wet weather with worn tyres.
    :)
  • lostinrates
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    LydiaJ wrote: »
    The differences stem from different rabbis' interpretation of the biblical rules and teaching about how they should be implemented, AIUI.


    Or just commitment..level of belief...or NDG explained, I think, her OH doesn't eat pork/shellfish simply because its cultural, but he's not religious at all.

    cousin who came to live with us wasn't really observant, her brother really is...
  • PasturesNew
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    There's lots of things which aren't kosher to eat at all, such as pigs, shellfish, and so forth. You can eat it if it's a land animal which has a cloven hoof and chews the cud, or a sea animal if it has scales and fins, or a bird if it's the right sort (chicken OK, turkey OK, anything non-veggie not ok).

    If the animal is kosher, then the eggs and milk are, too.

    Meat from a kosher animal has to be killed in the right way, has to be a "perfect" animal, and no blood is allowed.

    You can't mix milk and meat in the same dish / meal / for some times afterwards. So you can have either cheese or beef sandwiches, never both, and no milk in your tea after a meat meal. No butter on meat sarnies, either. No lasagna.

    That's where the separate milk / meat ovens, fridges, dishwashers, sets of plates etc comes from.

    There are also special rules for other things, such as wine and olives. But a lot of people will keep the main rules, and not worry so much about these ones.
    So ... to keep it simple, if I ever ever have to provide food for somebody that only eats kosher.... it sounds like I'd be OK if I stuck to 100% veggie and no booze.

    :)

    It's all rather complex isn't it.

    I bet you don't get invited back a 2nd time :)

    I had absolutely NO idea stuff like this went on!!
  • lostinrates
    lostinrates Posts: 55,283 Forumite
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    So ... to keep it simple, if I ever ever have to provide food for somebody that only eats kosher.... it sounds like I'd be OK if I stuck to 100% veggie and no booze.

    :)

    It's all rather complex isn't it.

    I bet you don't get invited back a 2nd time :)

    I had absolutely NO idea stuff like this went on!!


    I found it quite fun planning menus for the Observant visiting family. It kept me busy and was a nice change. It made lots of food culturally start to feel more alive for me. :) I have very fond memories of cooking with my cousin by marriage for her family, and her mother cooking with both of us. They were very warm and happy visits. Some of the best times with dh's family at all tbh. :)
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