Speeding ticket

newfoundglory

Woody. wrote: »

Rubbish.

The instructor will have records on who he was teaching at the time and if he doesn't he will be liable for 6 points and a fine in the region of £500.

Not true - he may have records as to booked time slots but that proves nothing. It would not be uncommon for lessons to start/finish slightly early/late, instructor may have been on the way to the lesson and got caught by a camera. Again, more information is needed and a picture to prove that there were two people in the car.

Woody._2

newfoundglory wrote: »

Not true - he may have records as to booked time slots but that proves nothing. It would not be uncommon for lessons to start/finish slightly early/late, instructor may have been on the way to the lesson and got caught by a camera. Again, more information is needed and a picture to prove that there were two people in the car.

Very true, if the instructor can't name the driver he commits an offence of failing to name the driver and as I said that carries a fine and 6 points.

Flyboy152

newfoundglory wrote: »

Not true - he may have records as to booked time slots but that proves nothing. It would not be uncommon for lessons to start/finish slightly early/late, instructor may have been on the way to the lesson and got caught by a camera. Again, more information is needed and a picture to prove that there were two people in the car.

A driving instructor has a duty to ensure they keep proper records of who is driving their car and when, if he doesn't, he will be liable to a penalty, on top of any speeding penalty he may be liable for as well.

Flyboy152

geordieracer wrote: »

Yes - thats a part you can buy. Im asking you to show me a picture with it in the car working. In fact dont waste your effort you odious cretin.

The fact still stands that it is up to the driver of a vehicle to monitor their speed at all times. If you try and say this is not true then you really are an idiot.

Actually, it's a part an instructor has to buy, if they want to use that particular car as a driving school car....I'll let you have a guess as to why it would be required.

Darksun

I was once on a driving lesson, on a road that was 30mph doing 30. My instructor told me off and said it was a 40mph road and I was going too slow, so taking his word for it (and assuming I'd just missed seeing the 40 sign) I sped up... coming along the same road later he realised that it was in fact 30mph and he'd told me to speed :eek:

If I'd been caught would I have still been liable?

Woody._2

Darksun wrote: »

I was once on a driving lesson, on a road that was 30mph doing 30. My instructor told me off and said it was a 40mph road and I was going too slow, so taking his word for it (and assuming I'd just missed seeing the 40 sign) I sped up... coming along the same road later he realised that it was in fact 30mph and he'd told me to speed :eek:

If I'd been caught would I have still been liable?

What do you think?

mynameisdave

bigjl wrote: »

Who is to say the learner wasn't told several times to slow down but ignored the instructor.

If the instructor told them to slow down several times and was ignored and they didnt use the dual controls for force them to slow down then they damn well deserve to be fined on behalf of the learner driver!

skiddlydiddly

mikey72 wrote: »

I haven't had a car made since about 1990 where the speedo doesn't agree with my sat nav.

Same really, I compare it against those mobile speed camera things they move around lamposts that show you exactly how fast you are going.They have all(except one that was obviously faulty) tallied exactly with my readings in various vehicles.
I think the 10% thing is something people read on a forum, take it as gospel for all cars and then perpetuate the urban myth by reposting it on further forums.

skiddlydiddly

Flyboy152 wrote: »

Are you a serious poster, or do you just troll for fun? What do you think that thing on the dashboard is, or do you think that the instructor sits in the boot?

The speedo in every car I've driven has been angled to the eyeline of the driver.If you look at the speedo from the passenger side it is hard to get a 100% true speed as the angle is different.
I haven't driven a Mini though .

newfoundglory

Flyboy152 wrote: »

A driving instructor has a duty to ensure they keep proper records of who is driving their car and when, if he doesn't, he will be liable to a penalty, on top of any speeding penalty he may be liable for as well.

If you are referring to Section 172 then driving instructors, like companies for example, are expected to take steps to know who is using the car. However in the event that, lets say, during a 1 hour lesson both the instructor and pupil have used the car then it may not be possible to identify who the driver was. Despite reasonable diligence, in such circumstances it can be that neither party is liable for a penalty - however I believe there have been certain instances when a court has given both a fixed penalty and points.