Teachers please - Y4 expected SATS levels

thatgirlsam

JC9297 wrote: »

As I asked in my last post what did the teacher base the assessment on, has she sat a level8 paper?


I don't think it is a case of people not believing that some children are very able, everybody knows that is the case (as I said before any cohort will have several of these children). I think sometimes people question the levels given by teachers as they are not always supported by evidence. For example a child in year 6 may be capable of learning and doing GCSE work, but unless they have been taught the more advanced maths and are consistently getting it right they cannot be said to be working at that level.

I don't know which paper she sat - she mentioned to me last night very casually her teacher scored her level 8c in her test - i will be speaking to her teacher when they retutn to school!

Somehow she just knows how to do the work - She doesn't need to be 'taught' it - I don't know how she does it?!

She is the only child in her class at this level

Its hard work constantly defending what she is doing - I know you say people do beleive but it really doesn't sound like it!!!

balletshoes

you've every right to be proud of your daughter thatgirlsam - and as long as you believe her teacher that she's at level 8, does it really matter what anyone else believes?

poet123

Gingham_R wrote: »

Some educational psychologists argue that having problems with writing is a defining characteristic of giftedness, Spendless. There are a few reasons for this. Briefly, their ideas run faster than their hands can cope with; asynchronous development can mean that their motor skills aren't as advanced as their intellect and seeing the 'wide picture' can mean that it's hard to focus on putting it down on paper.

The NAGC has stuff on this too, though it sounds like he's doing a great job overcoming it.

My youngest son is G&T and his handwriting is atrocious, and has been from Primary level. We were told this is a trait often shown by such children.

thatgirlsam

balletshoes wrote: »

you've every right to be proud of your daughter thatgirlsam - and as long as you believe her teacher that she's at level 8, does it really matter what anyone else believes?

Not really

It is super frustrating though - people think you're the deluded proud mother, getting it wrong, of course your daughter isn't that clever.. how could she be, with you as her Mum? ETC and repeat!

poet123

thatgirlsam wrote: »

Not really

It is super frustrating though - people think you're the deluded proud mother, getting it wrong, of course your daughter isn't that clever.. how could she be, with you as her Mum? ETC and repeat!

I think you underestimate yourself.

FBaby

JC9297 wrote: »

I think it is very unlikely that your daughter is the only child working at the level she is, each cohort will have a handful of exceptionally bright children and schools will have experience of working with them. My son is bright, top sets and expected to get A/A*s but he is not exceptional, the same as me and his dad were really, but he knows a few kids who are on another level academically and the school manages to meet their needs.

As I have written the problem is that my DD school does not steam in Y7 so yes in her class (24 pupils only) she is way above any one else. they are of course other pupils working at her level or about in other classes who are also not challenged as they should because of it. I never said DD was exceptional even if it is what was mentioned in her school report at the end of Y6.
Just one thing about tests and levels I understand that the result of a test doesn't indicate on its own a pupil's level. My DD got a 7a at her last science test (scored 100%) but her teacher explained to me that it could be because of the current topic studied and she might not do as well on another one. Similarly my son is working on level 5 on some maths exercises but still on 4 on other hence the 4a at the moment.

Lunar_Eclipse

My Y7 daughter sits L6-8 papers for Maths. (She also sat this in Y6 FYI.)

The top 25 ish in the year group will be working at L8 by this time in Y8, each year. The top third of the year group achieve L7+ by the end of Y8.

JC9297

thatgirlsam wrote: »

Not really

It is super frustrating though - people think you're the deluded proud mother, getting it wrong, of course your daughter isn't that clever.. how could she be, with you as her Mum? ETC and repeat!

Who are you telling and why? Presumably you are not having to convince her school as her teacher already knows, so can't see why it is a problem.

FBaby

thatgirlsam (or any parent for this matter who has a child who achieves significantly above the class average), how do the teachers challenge your children? Are they all in set groups? Are you children in school with a higher than average level of high performing children?

I would very much welcome some feedback on this. At the moment, I am keeping quiet about my DD on the basis that 1. I and my DD are happy with the school, it is only 6 mns walk from home, the culture is very much one I agree with, the kids are well behaved etc...2- the school does get good GSCE results, 3- I tell myself that Y7 is transitional and things will pick up next year, and 4- maybe I expect to much from a local school, but there is a part of me that does wonder whether the school is failing my DD in not challenging her at her level.

thatgirlsam

JC9297 wrote: »

Who are you telling and why? Presumably you are not having to convince her school as her teacher already knows, so can't see why it is a problem.

I guess I am just telling the people on this thread that said it was not possible for a child of that age to acheive what she has

And some of those are teachers!!!