Tyres - What is the Truth?

bigjl

Wig wrote: »

I could get killed crossing the road or walking along side it
I could get food poisoning
I could get carbon monoxide poisoning

I could spend more money to try to minimise these unlikely events from happening......... but I don't.

You don't have to explain why you chose to buy inferior tyres Wig.

That is your personam choice.

To argue that a cheap tyre is the same as a premium tyre in all aspects other than price is the only thing that nobody agrees with.

I have put cheapies on my car for the first time in many years amd to be honest it was a budget issue. I needed tyres and I only had enough to buy cheapies, albeit cheapies made by a company owned by GoodYear so maybe not the worst cheapy around.

But my car certainly doesn't drive better than it did on the worn out Toyo's. The biggest annoyance is the fuel consumption increasing and more noise at low speed and some harshness that can be felt through the wheel at slow speed aswell.

If you are happy with reduced grip and reduced longevity with possible increases in fuel useage then that is your choice and good luck to you.

But premium tyres are just that premium.

If I was keeping my Mondeo then I suspect I would change the tyres when I have the money. But it is getting sold soon so I will leave the cheapies on.

But the wifes Clio will be getting a set of Michelins in the next few months. The Avons are showing some wear now after 10k that I wouldn't expect on a Michelin.

There is always a compromise. In those Avons the comprmise would appear lifespan, though the diesel.Clios are known to be hard on tyres, I assume due to the fact the diesel.engine is heavy.

The compromise on the Savas would seem to be rolling resistance and noise.

If I was a minicab driver it probably wouldn't bother me much.

With tyres there are as many opinions as brands.

But I suspect that if you check ACPO Guidelines for tyres don't include any use of budget tyres. This decision will be made after considering things like wear rates and outright grip I would suspect.

Most Ambulance services use advice from.ACPO as they lack.the money to research such things. One reason why Ambulance rapid response cars have either Battenberg or half battenberg, to meet the highest conspicuity regs of ACPO. The yellow paint is some crap from the EU. Battenberg is so good that most if not all front line vehicles have it. Even though for the Police it is only compulsory on.Traffic, due to the need to park on.high speed roads. Which is why Area cars or DPG in London still have the jamsandwich livery.

Now I think I have digressed enough.

mikey72

bigjl wrote: »

So your reply is another petulant, pointless meaningless post.

Blimey you must have been turned down for the Polic, Fire and Ambulance Sercices then eh?

Your childish little digs only show you up to be ignorant and uninformed.

Yes obviously, it's always been my greatest desire, what other ambition could any one have eh?
We'll split it though, you can stay ignorant, I'll stay un-uniformed.

(But seriously, get someone to explain post #166 to you, if the joke was so far over your head, then maybe you'll shut up?)

adouglasmhor

bigjl wrote: »

I will point out for those people of lower intellect.

The mechanics employed by the Ambulance Service in London are called "fitters".

What exactly was added to this thread by your petulant post?

I take it the point that all service vehicles regardless of the use are fitted with premium quality tyres has escaped you totally?

A fitter is not a mechanic.

oscarward

Wig wrote: »

And here we have the crux of the matter, I drive about 300 miles a week through relatively built up country 'A' roads, towns and the motorway - I never have to brake sharply or take any avoiding action each and every day. You must be doing something wrong that you have this happen to you every day. Over the last 4 months or so I have driven to France 4 times and again experienced no hard braking or avoiding action.

And here I don't refer to braking so hard that the brand of tyre would make a difference, I mean I don't brake hard at all.

I bought a s/h PUG 406 estate a couple of years ago as a second car. Bought for trips to shops/tip, keep the miles down on my sports car, teach the son to drive, transport elderly relatives etc. which the dealer fitted 2 new tyres on the front before delivery. They were a brand I had never heard of but the car cornered and stopped ok so wasn't too concerned.... I always leave a gap between myself and car in front so I can brake gently, I'm not a dash to the line and slam the brakes on type .

Then one Sunday morning going to local shopping centre in a queue of traffic. Slight downhill slope, greasy road from overnight rain , I was just letting the car roll forward as traffic in front went in to a roundabout. I was about 10 yards behind a Pug 206, he stopped and I couldn't. The ABS came on at 5 MPH and I slid in to the back of him. I was lucky, no damage to his car and my number plate and plastic radiator grill were cracked.

Changed the tyres to Pirelli 6000 next day.

So even if you say you never brake hard doesn't mean to say you don't need good rubber.

bigjl

adouglasmhor wrote: »

A fitter is not a mechanic.

They are in the London Ambulance Service, always have been and always will be.

Though recently they have tried to adopt the tag of Fleet Multiskilled Technicians!

You can call them what you want, in this situation they are called the fitters, in much the same way as a mechanic at a bus garage will tend to be referred to as a Diesel Fitter.

Surely this isn't a difficult concept to get across.

And mikey viewing your comment in the way I do has nothing to do with "getting" a joke.

Unless you think somebody having some form of fit or seizure is something to laught about?

Personally I don't find it funny, but then I have seen children under 10 in Status Epilipticus that ended up with brain damage due the seizure not being controllable.

Yeah, you laugh all you want.:(

adouglasmhor

bigjl wrote: »

They are in the London Ambulance Service, always have been and always will be.

Though recently they have tried to adopt the tag of Fleet Multiskilled Technicians!

You can call them what you want, in this situation they are called the fitters, in much the same way as a mechanic at a bus garage will tend to be referred to as a Diesel Fitter.

Surely this isn't a difficult concept to get across.

And mikey viewing your comment in the way I do has nothing to do with "getting" a joke.

Unless you think somebody having some form of fit or seizure is something to laught about?

Personally I don't find it funny, but then I have seen children under 10 in Status Epilipticus that ended up with brain damage due the seizure not being controllable.

Yeah, you laugh all you want.:(

A diesel fitter is not a mechanic either, a fitter is semi-skilled a mechanic is a skilled trade, you get fitters in Quickfit etc. but many are not qualified mechanics.
The joke was not about the term fitter or anything to do with seizures/fits though: you seem to have very poor language skills. Maybe the suggestion of getting things explained to you is a good one.
In short you com across as a bit "challenged" by the meanings of words.

adouglasmhor

In fact the fact you thought it was about epilepsy says far more about you than about Mikey. Maybe you need counseling as well?

bigjl

adouglasmhor wrote: »

A diesel fitter is not a mechanic either, a fitter is semi-skilled a mechanic is a skilled trade, you get fitters in Quickfit etc. but many are not qualified mechanics.
The joke was not about the term fitter or anything to do with seizures/fits though: you seem to have very poor language skills. Maybe the suggestion of getting things explained to you is a good one.
In short you com across as a bit "challenged" by the meanings of words.

Really, mmm, you most be so clever.

The fact that mikey knows that I work for the LAS, and this has caused antagonism before, something whcih you know very little about.

"challenged"?

What do you mean by that you opinionated half wit.

You know nothing about me, or what I know or don't know.

You know nothing about what I do or have seen, absolutely NOTHING.

I suggest you wind your neck in and grow up a bit.

Throwing comments that people are "challenged" merely shows you up to be an uniformed and abusive.

You don't think that commenting about what a particular job is called in a Service that you are not in is beyond stupid.

You believe what you want about mikey72's comments, it was aimed at me so therefore your opinion is like much of what you say, pointless and merely wastes forum space.

bigjl

adouglasmhor wrote: »

In fact the fact you thought it was about epilepsy says far more about you than about Mikey. Maybe you need counseling as well?

Counseling?

Mmm, at least I have been in situations traumatic enough to need counseling, what was the worst thing to happen to you during your career?

You ran out of paper and pens?:rotfl:

You continue to blah, blah all you want, your posts are much like mikey's, boring.

adouglasmhor

bigjl wrote: »

Counseling?

Mmm, at least I have been in situations traumatic enough to need counseling, what was the worst thing to happen to you during your career?

You ran out of paper and pens?:rotfl:

You continue to blah, blah all you want, your posts are much like mikey's, boring.

Seeing a comrade blown to shreds by an IED. Surviving an ambush, surviving an IED, watching a father picking up his dead child and turning to his wife then me and asking me why and having no answer.
You know nothing about me, my comments about you were based on things you have posted in this thread which is why they were relevant.