TCP parking notice in a hospital

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Sirdan wrote: »

Sorry to be pedantic but there are numerous statutory bodies that can issue penalties. In the context of parking these include the Police and Councils.

This is a small but important point ,the reason these Parking companies can not issue penalties is that they are private as in they have no statutory authority.

You weren't pedantic, merely accurate. Naturally authorities may issue penalties but I was just making a point drafted to be easier for the OP and that point was that private companies may not issue penalties.

geordieracer

trisontana wrote: »

Unlike the parasites who work for private parking companies. They should get a proper job instead of trying to con money out of people.

I think this sort of post is unfair to the people who work for them They are just doing a job and do pay taxes and everything else so you shouldn't really be slagging off the people who work for PPCs just the PPCs themselves.

unless of course you want more unemployed people in this country

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geordieracer wrote: »

I think this sort of post is unfair to the people who work for them They are just doing a job and do pay taxes and everything else so you shouldn't really be slagging off the people who work for PPCs just the PPCs themselves.

unless of course you want more unemployed people in this country

I appreciate your good faith and I would never attack an officer physically nor verbally. Yes they are human and yes they have feelings. As much as I am keen on seeing 100% employment, I'm afraid that their job does not count. I wish they and their masters to have "work" - albeit behind bars for the masters - but not this type of job. If we accept persons acting illegally past the post simply because "it's a job and they pay taxes", the next thing you know you have "legal loan sharks" - if you don't pay them 1000% interest they may smash your windows, enter your house and leave you for dead - but it's fine because they "pay taxes" and should not be "unemployed". Actions must draw the line somewhere, and practice needs to be legal.

PPC officers do not contribute to society, their actions cause unsuspecting citizens to fork out big money for crooks. Now if I turn into a private car park and find a spot recently vacated by a driver who realised his time was running out and an officer is patrolling the area, you may have believed "ah, well it's thanks to the PPC officer that you parked". The question is, what did the officer do? Had the previous driver not moved, I may have been without a space and he would have been issued an illicit "charge" but had you asked me from the onset, I'd have chosen for there to be no officer, for the vehicle to remain in place and that I seek alternative spaces on another car park (if the only choice for me to park there was at the unlawful expence of a motorist).

Kite2010

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I appreciate your good faith and I would never attack an officer physically nor verbally. Yes they are human and yes they have feelings. As much as I am keen on seeing 100% employment, I'm afraid that their job does not count. I wish they and their masters to have "work" - albeit behind bars for the masters - but not this type of job. If we accept persons acting illegally past the post simply because "it's a job and they pay taxes", the next thing you know you have "legal loan sharks" - if you don't pay them 1000% interest they may smash your windows, enter your house and leave you for dead - but it's fine because they "pay taxes" and should not be "unemployed". Actions must draw the line somewhere, and practice needs to be legal.

PPC officers do not contribute to society, their actions cause unsuspecting citizens to fork out big money for crooks. Now if I turn into a private car park and find a spot recently vacated by a driver who realised his time was running out and an officer is patrolling the area, you may have believed "ah, well it's thanks to the PPC officer that you parked". The question is, what did the officer do? Had the previous driver not moved, I may have been without a space and he would have been issued an illicit "charge" but had you asked me from the onset, I'd have chosen for there to be no officer, for the vehicle to remain in place and that I seek alternative spaces on another car park (if the only choice for me to park there was at the unlawful expence of a motorist).

The last time I checked PPC officers pay their taxes, so they do contribute to society. They might be doing a rubbish job, but at least they are taking home a wage and not collecting unemployment benefits. I can think of a worst job, which is being a cold-caller on the telephones.

esmerobbo

I suspect although guilty myself of calling them derisory names, most employees believe they are doing an honest job. Knowing the PPC model and how it works I assume they are put under pressure to ticket as many as they can.

I think we should aim our disdain at the men/women who are making the wonga at the top.

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Kite2010 wrote: »

The last time I checked PPC officers pay their taxes, so they do contribute to society. They might be doing a rubbish job, but at least they are taking home a wage and not collecting unemployment benefits. I can think of a worst job, which is being a cold-caller on the telephones.

I know what you mean, I meant their job is not beneficial to society. A cold-caller may be a nuisance but if he can sell you something you may be happy with at some form of cheaper price (this may affect 0.00000001% of people) then it is job done; I wouldn't want the PPC officers scrounging but it would be far better than what they are doing because PPCs are funded entirely by blood money.

Jobseekers will give him £60 per week and cut it off after six months. His actual job - if paid minimal - will give him £200+ take home per week in perpetuity, this is after contributions of course. That money he is getting was first earnt by innocent members of the public who fell into a trap.

If my son (18 months old) became ruler of this land in a coup d'etat and made me Employment Secretary - giving me the choice between abolishing PPCs leaving their kith and kin jobless forthwith or leaving them doing their job for "contribution" purposes - I'd go for the former and not feel one iota of remorse. If the work isn't out there, we cannot artificially boost the economy by creating false positions. So, PPC staff not willing to look for work elsewhere will go on the bread line but hundreds of thousands of innocent members of the public will save the money they would have used to fund these crooks.

...and the average member of the public would far rather have the money in his own pocket than handed over to an ape knowing a bit of it goes back to the country. I don't recall many charities collecting from people in buckets during the Credit Crunch - "donate money for the local councils and for the government. Put Britain back on its feet - play your part". Only the looneys would have made donations.

But looking at it the other way - let them do it because they pay taxes, well if this is all right, we can start reducing unemployment immedately by training the scroungers to be professional pimps, drug and arms dealers and loan sharks. Legalise their activity and all will be fine - taxes paid.

PPCs owe their existence to widespread ignorance even in high governmental circles coupled with a lack of interest from powerful people to chop their wings. Whichever way you look at it, it is a non-job.

Rebecca2210

Now I am being sent lawyers letters about these 'charges' and i am just ignoring them, it worrys me that i will get taken to court over these though. do you think i could sue the ppc for harrassment?

AlexisV

Kite2010 wrote: »

The last time I checked PPC officers pay their taxes, so they do contribute to society. They might be doing a rubbish job, but at least they are taking home a wage and not collecting unemployment benefits. I can think of a worst job, which is being a cold-caller on the telephones.

What's a 'PPC Officer'?

To say a PPC employee contributes to society is like saying at least Rebekah Brooks paid her council tax.

Coupon-mad

Rebecca2210 wrote: »

Now I am being sent lawyers letters about these 'charges' and i am just ignoring them, it worries me that i will get taken to court over these though. do you think i could sue the ppc for harrassment?

Debt collector letters are computerised standard letter-chains, as shown in our top thread so you can see a preview of what will come next:

http://forums.moneysavingexpert.com/forumdisplay.php?f=163

You could sue for harassment if you were so minded, but it wouldn't be a small claim and would need legal advice, could be pricey. Hence why the only known case by an individual so far was the one against British Gas.

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To Rebecca:
hang fire - those "threatograms" are to be expected and they are just part of the process which we knew about from the start.

DO NOT PAY.

So they may take you to court? What for?

If they take you to court, they will need to satisfy the judge that the amount they seek from you compensates for actual losses AND that you were the driver.

But they will no more take you to court than Roxburghe will go near a tribunal for an issue concerning me. Today I received my second threatogram from these scammers and I sent it back to them telling them what I think. You are home and dry girl.

For piece of mind, type the name of these so-called solicitors and add the word "scam" if your prediction bar doesn't beat you to it, and you may be surprised to find some results. If not, they are brand new!