Newspapers Report "Disabled Car Plan Racket"

Chorlie

beller wrote: »

Why?

I'm not jealous at all. I wouldn't want to be disabled.

All I'm saying is that being disabled with an income of over £418 a week is a little it rich when I have to work 32 hours to gross £190!!

The report is right. How many times do you see all and sundry using a 'disability car' as though it is the family means of transport.

How many cars are there on Motability that are paid for by say the father who is disabled, that are actually used by son, daughter and uncle Tom Cobley and all. I know of one that the son in law uses it to get to and from work, the car being parked up all day in the office car park, AND then he and the daughter + kids use it to go on holiday to France every year!

Then what about those that choose not to claim DLA, they still have to pay for a car out of savings or income. They are no less disabled than most others!

And as for high end cars on Motability. I have a friend who is the service manager at a Mercedes dealership. He tells me that over 40% of all C class vehicles that come in are on Motability!

Well I was born disabled (in a wheelchair), worked for 20yrs in an average office job since leaving school until last year when I was dismissed on Ill Health Grounds (so pensioned off).

I've had DLA most of my life, but don't get close to £125 a week, I get a small amount of ESA but nothing like your quoted £170 (not sure where you get this figure) I thought ESA was £95 a week, which I still don't come close to.

So including my DLA, ESA, Pension and Income on my savings I don't get anywhere close to your £418 a week disabled people get, tell me how I can get that much please....

I don't have a Motability Car before you have a go at me and beside on one but me has driven my car. I fully agree that Motability is abused by to many people in many different ways, but you need to turn your anger at Motability, they are the Non Profit Making Company that run the Scheme, who control which cars are on offer, who has them and polices it. They are the ones the government pay your taxes to. You have to consider that the more people Motability can get onto their scheme the more money they get from the Government (your taxes) and the more money they have to pay there big boss over £1m a year.


Or you could just go break your back/neck and you can live the rest of your life in a wheelchair, in pain, people looking down there noses at you all the time, being treated like 3rd class citizens, unable to access a lot of clubs/pubs or even public transport so your suck in your home unable to meet friends, but you get your £418 a week....it will go along way to pay for Taxi's, cost of a wheelchair, having all the adaptions you'll need to your home, home help or if you get a car you can pay for your car adaptions and the car, unless you get your FREE Motability car, but you'll have to have a small basic car or if you need an Automatic you might be lucky and have a choice of a very small selection again only small basic one if you don't want to pay any extra (NIL deposit). If you did NEED a bigger car so you could fit your wheelchair in it (which helps for when you get to where you're going) and / or an Automatic then you'll have to use some of you're saving to pay the extra. If you fancied a nice BMW / Merc then you'll have to pay thousands of pounds extra (£5000 to £10,000 extra) and not forgetting any extras/upgrades fitted to the car ie parking sensors have to be paid for from your saving, plus on top of all of that your adaption / hand controls etc all have to be paid up front by you from your saving (you can apply to Motability for help with adaption but you might get turned down).

So a very easy simple way to increase your income from £190 to £418 a week and have a free car (but you won't have £418 then, because Motability will get £51 of that) but hay £367 a week and a free car just for a Broken Back bargain....Go For It I Say...!!!

System

Like all threads where disability/DLA is the subject, this has now degenerated into 'I've got X, Y & Z wrong with me. Would you like to spend the rest of your life like that?'

so predictable.

L0RRY

beller wrote: »

No! The BMW also has to be handed back after 3 years if its not Motability.

then maybe you ought to research some better deals cos you can get a bmw x1 otr for £24,270 or less.

Chorlie

beller wrote: »

I was quoting the X1 2.3 X drive, not the very basic 2.0 S!

Well the advanced (non refundable) payment for a X1 2.3 X Drive on Motability is:-

Manual - £8,299
Auto - £8,799

And not the £5,000 you used for your calculations.

http://www.motabilityonline.co.uk/carsearch/paginatedSearch.htm

L0RRY

beller wrote: »

I was quoting the X1 2.3 X drive, not the very basic 2.0 S!

who cares? the model you can get for the £5000 motability deposit is £25,680 or less, if you're going to spend £20K+ for a BMW you'd buy it not lease so comparisons like that are completely paltry and smacks of nothing more than jealousy. motability customers lease because they have the comfort in knowing there's a reliable car available to them at all times to get them to hospital appts and all other necessary day to day journeys which would be very difficult using public transport due to their mobility restrictions. they are partly funded by the CHARITY Mobility and partly funded by the government using benefits which disabled people are issued because it's recognised they have mobility problems making travel difficult and possibly partly by the disabled person themselves if they want to pay extra for specific requirements. leasing & purchasing at the end is NOT a cheap way to get a car and hire purchase via Motability is now being scrapped so all these stories of people getting luxury cars on the cheap are shams. mobility benefit is a flat rate so the government's contribution is no more for a basic model than for a luxury model so if disabled people choose to pay a large deposit out of their own pocket EVERY 3 YEARS to drive a nice car it's their own business!

dark_lady

Beller said "My disability is none of your business"

Beller also said "i wouldnt want to be disabled"

Oh dear Caught out by your own lies.
If you were lying in those two statements then what else were you lying about. The bit about struggling on minimum wage perhaps.

Go tell your friends in The House of Commons/Whitehall/Daily Mail or whereever that your MSE sleeper agent duties have failed this time and they will have to think of something else.:D

celinepatricia

beller wrote: »

All I'm saying is that being disabled with an income of over £418 a week is a little it rich when I have to work 32 hours to gross £190!!

418.00 per week!!! please explain how this figure is achieved, my husband is disabled, worked for 35 years and never claimed anything, but this stupid person seems to think that he is a scrounger!! He gets nowhere near this amount per week so please explain?

pstuart

dark lady has the Troll, Stooge, Avatar, Alter Ego, whatever, banged to rights, no point in getting further into it.

MSE has such a large following, it is in certain 'companies' interests to keep tabs on and occasionally misdirect forums, disability and its 'excesses' are a prime target for certain divisive groups at the moment.

They are creating an aggravated state of tension which will allow them to easily dismantle the welfare state.

Hastobe_Katt

If you're on minimum wage then you'll be getting WTC, CTC, CB, maybe HB etc.

I'm disabled (I have a serious genetic condition - diagnosed at 17) and I work - only contract work now as I have had 7 operations in the last three years - so I'm not considered a good employment prospect. Especially as I have more to come - and my life expectancy is seriously limited. Neverthless, I have worked since the age of 16 - and paid for my post high school education (that's an (excellent) first degree, post grad (with distinction) and two lots of professional exams). I recently calculated that I have paid >£500,000 in tax and NI over my 34 year working life and never claimed any benefits.

The thought that I may have been subsidising a moronic idiot like you seriously p****s me off.

colin13

beller wrote: »

Even in your example, it will only cost £99 for the Motability claimant, and £5587 for the non Motability individual.

The government - taxpayers, pay the rest of the Motability payments. The likes of me, my friends, my relatives and every other poor sod that works for a living earning minimum wage.

Look at it another way, the government GIVES you the £221 per month for free, whereas the non Motability individual has to find it out of savings or earnings. He/she takes it out of their own pocket!

I gross £190 a week for full time employment. Yet DLA pays £125 a week, ESA pays up to £170 a week.

Out of my wage I pay £25 a week council tax, and £98 a week rent.

Those on sick/disabled, unemployed/pensioners on means tested benefits pay nowt!!!!

Who says it pays to work?

Back to the thread, yes those not in full time work should carry out some work function

ill gladly swap u lives,,you caan have my disaability,lack of money and poor life quality,and ill throw in my DLA,so u can get a free car,,emaail me and we will swap asap