anyone tried ebid?

terra_ferma

mrsk wrote: »

Right.. I've posted links to two good eBid information sites. I've told you that I have sold over 60 items this month. I've told you that 4 more sold this evening. I've made suggestions about the areas where eBid is more useful than eBay. I've shown how to find busy sellers. I've told you where advanced search is.

But what the eBid bashers want to do is just that - bash eBid.

I shall not return to this thread because you don't want to know what I can tell you.

You have a point, you have been helpful.

soolin

scotchebidder wrote: »

i dont post on ebids behalf i post on my own behalf i tried to explain to you on this forum in a positive sense months ago about ebid you and your little gang just argued against me and others from ebid,again that thread envolved you and soolin attacking ebid, you would not reason or debate you just found reason to knock down ebid

As per my post 107 it isn't me making up stuff to support an argument that only you appear to understand any longer.

I think it is a shame that posters such as mrsk who are able to discuss things in a rational manner have left the thread

masonic

scotchebidder wrote: »

i dont post on ebids behalf i post on my own behalf i tried to explain to you on this forum in a positive sense months ago about ebid you and your little gang just argued against me and others from ebid,again that thread envolved you and soolin attacking ebid, you would not reason or debate you just found reason to knock down ebid

I don't believe anyone here would really want to 'knock down' ebid. At the end of the day what definitely isn't good for any of us is a platform with a monopoly.

soolin

masonic wrote: »

I don't believe anyone here would really want to 'knock down' ebid. At the end of the day what definitely isn't good for any of us is a platform with a monopoly.

That's a good point actually. Most of us I'm sure use at least one other venue for sales.

I am always astonished as well when people consider the posts on here all pro ebay. When I look at threads I see complaints about fees, complaints about pulled listings, those blasted glitches, frozen screen, the new 'improved' ebay sales format that no one else seems to like. Yet when a site like ebid is mentioned we are all supposed to be only positive about it.

scotchebidder

" won't post the results, it's too controversial, let's just say looking at sellers in my category I saw a lot of red crosses and very few green ticks....."

so you did some research in one category well done!

"Incidentally I've done a bit of research, after 'a very helpful person' told me that you can search closed sales".

have you by chance searched a category that is sucsesful did this very helpful person direct you to one ?

see the point im making with you is you have not tried ebid your just relying on what other people are saying who are these people ? do they have a vested interest one way or another? im afraid what your saying just leads to more and more questions you can not rely on here say i does sound to me that you really have no idea of expanding into another service provider

" what I sell is very specialised "

is it then you should be very aware of the potential your goods have in what ever platform you decide to sell on, i have found selling in a similar market competion from other providers is not a problem in fact it works in my favour price is not a consideration service is, another point is the same customers will move between providers not because of price but because of availability these points are fundemental when dealing in a specialised goods/markets,

now is that good enough advise for you, you need to flex your own wings you will never know till you try

RFW

scotchebidder wrote: »

the rest of your post is dribble

Wasn't he the policeman in Top Cat?

Whether to sell on Ebid as the original post asked, I'd have said that the pro Ebid people on here should actually do something to help anyone considering it, given that the fee issue seems to be favourable for Ebid, let me ask some other questions:

Can you search on Ebid to see sold/unsold items over the last 14, 30, 60 or 90 days?

Are there details of percentage sell through rates on differing categories?

Can we know how many active buyers are on Ebid, that is buyers who have made one or more purchases in the last month, 6 months or year?

What protection is in place for non payers? Are second chance offers possible? Can fees be refunded? Are non payers blocked from future transactions?

I'm sure other questions will spring to mind. It does seem that being pro Ebid seems to be being against anyone who likes or uses Ebay, why not try and disprove this theory with facts and figures?

scotchebidder

masonic wrote: »

I don't believe anyone here would really want to 'knock down' ebid. At the end of the day what definitely isn't good for any of us is a platform with a monopoly.

well i do i have experinced these people before.

the second part of your post i agree with the monopoly is breaking up ever so slowly more venues platforms are being used different fee structures for sellers transpose in different services offered by sellers indeed the monopoly holder itself is transforming into a different type of platform witch is gearing up for a type of retailer at the exspense of another its the users who are angry and annoyed with this, they need to be more flexable and research other platforms as i have been trying to point out to another user on here

scotchebidder

RFW wrote: »

Wasn't he the policeman in Top Cat?

Whether to sell on Ebid as the original post asked, I'd have said that the pro Ebid people on here should actually do something to help anyone considering it, given that the fee issue seems to be favourable for Ebid, let me ask some other questions:

Can you search on Ebid to see sold/unsold items over the last 14, 30, 60 or 90 days?

Are there details of percentage sell through rates on differing categories?

Can we know how many active buyers are on Ebid, that is buyers who have made one or more purchases in the last month, 6 months or year?

What protection is in place for non payers? Are second chance offers possible? Can fees be refunded? Are non payers blocked from future transactions?

I'm sure other questions will spring to mind. It does seem that being pro Ebid seems to be being against anyone who likes or uses Ebay, why not try and disprove this theory with facts and figures?

seeing that your questions are so specific i guess you already no the answers to them i guess il know in your reply if your baiting or not

yes you can search for sold items i dont know the cut off point in time

Are there details of percentage sell through rates on differing categories? not that i know of but not many sites i know of give them figures

Can we know how many active buyers are on Ebid, that is buyers who have made one or more purchases in the last month, 6 months or year? not that i know of but again no sites i know of give them figures

What protection is in place for non payers? Are second chance offers possible? Can fees be refunded? Are non payers blocked from future transactions?

dont think theres any protection for nonpayers why would you want to protect a non payer?? second chance offers are not possible, fees can be refunded you can block any non payer if you wish or any user if you wish the two strikes and your suspended apply on ebid to buyers or sellers suspended means you cant use your account you will have to explain why and how you will fix anyproblems before your allowed to trade again as a buyer or seller i agree with this helps keep the site clean of scammers

seems to me if you read the help pages on ebid you will get these answers and more you also asume with your questions is ebid a clone of ebay no its not certain aspects of the site have evolved completely differently from ebay what i do like about the site is if a change or add on is debated by the members more often than not its encluded in the next round of updates any problems with the system that are reported are fixed within hours again you need to read the relavant threads on ebid to confirm this

Crowqueen

Scotch - stop ranting for a moment and listen.

I just bought something on eBid. I looked through a category of about 1000 items (a tiny fraction of what was listed in the same category on eBay) and scrolled down through a reasonable amount of items from sellers with reasonable feedback getting a reasonable number of views. It might well be picking up. In which case, there will be no problem, there will be some buying traffic there and people might start taking it a bit more seriously.

If you want to search my name on there, go ahead, it's the same as what I post with here. (It was already taken when I tried to register it on eBay and I'm damned if I'm giving out my selling or buying account names there).

I buy a lot, believe me, online. I would say about 75% of my purchases are made on Amazon, 20% on eBay and 5% on other websites. I don't often buy things on eBid but if I see something there I like I won't let my selling prejudices get to me and not buy it just because it's eBid. I post on eBay threads because I've been a seller there, so I know the ropes (I do feel very strongly about buyer protection, because that's why these sites exist after all and without buyers, sellers are going nowhere fast) but the number one reason I won't start up on eBid is there is no money in the system to protect my buyers or advertise my items, so I'm not sure it's worth my time listing there for the few items I have to sell. Sure, I can list it for free for as long as it takes to sell. But I don't want it to sit there unsold for years on end. I want it to sell relatively soon (and, let's face it, if it doesn't sell relatively quickly on eBay, there might not be the market for it out there - that does happen). I don't want to sit there refreshing the page seeing a view or two over several weeks - I can get more than that in a few days on eBay, and ultimately that's what matters. Why? Because eBay can pay to advertise for me. That's why it's still worth a lot of people's while paying their so-called high fees. It's pure economics, albeit slightly counter-intuitive from some people's viewpoints.

I think a lot of us here would like to be proved wrong, but a lot of us are also concerned about the lack of money sloshing around eBid's coffers, and what that means about the promotion of our items through national and international media. None of us here work for eBay (I wish). Most of us, however, are either private or professional sellers who want to see cold hard cash and don't often mind paying a premium for a decent return on that investment.

I think you're just making a bit of a fool of yourself and chasing away people who actually do eBid a lot of credit, which it does deserve. From a buyer's point of view, I would only go where the items are to be found, but you can't make me buy there by telling me a load of bull about high eBay fees or whatever. You need to give me a reason to spend my cash with eBid rather than Amazon or eBay, and when I can find most of the stuff I need there, that's eBid's main task now - to try and get me, someone disinterested in the selling process, in to spend my money.

scotchebidder

well crow your post is too long to answer completely

so you think im making a bit of a fool of my self well i guess thats a improvement to what others have said, i dont really care what people think of me here or on ebid i dont use the forum over there

my point here was the way soolin attacks any posts about ebid whitch she has done for years its gone way past a opinion its a relentless attack i have brought this up and drawn peoples attention to it.
" I can list it for free for as long as it takes to sell. But I don't want it to sit there unsold for years on end. I want it to sell relatively soon "

well you dont know till you try all that sentence says to me is you have anticipated a event or non event without trying.

"I think a lot of us here would like to be proved wrong, but a lot of us are also concerned about the lack of money sloshing around eBid's coffers"

i dont see how you could know if ebid have money in there coffers or not they have never done a large advertising stint the advertising on a whole is through google whitch works very well for me and others it depends on what you sell if your gonna intice folk to buy


"Because eBay can pay to advertise for me"

really ive not seen a add in a paper or the networks for ages i think ebay trade on reputation by and large whitch is going down hill has been doing for years sure there spaming emails are on the encrease there patronizing free listing weekends are on the increase whitch is really an insult compared with the FVF. sounds to me there feeling the pinch with the ecomnomic climate at this time so sellers over there are paying for it,coupled with the fact there changing there user base albiet very slowly doesent look to good for private /small business sellers time will tell the final out come, im just glad i got out years ago and established elsewere.

" From a buyer's point of view, I would only go where the items are to be found, but you can't make me buy there by telling me a load of bull about high eBay fees or whatever."

of course you should only buy were you find what you want but how many people do search else were? i dont see what the cost of fees have for a seller to do with you making a purchase are you saying because fees are higher on ebay you buy there not sure i know what you mean there.

the facts for me crow are i established on ebid years ago ive got a good customer base there i sell all over the world i do not rely on the site advertising for me nor by defualt do any other sellers there, it does work for me and many others i have many many repeat customers my fb does not reflect my sales because ebid by its nature does not just attract buyers like yourself it attracts the occasional internet buyer who has no interest in gaining or leaving fb they want the goods pay and leave, this is the great advantage google has with its partners, now i would not expect you or the ebay only brigade to understand or know this but this is one of the many ways e-commerce is changing the monopoly is cracked and is breaking if not instergaited by the monopoly its self the bay will change beyond reconition in the next couple of years, you only have to look back 4 years ago to see how much it has changed, there business plan and how its been implemented