Camberley Mosque Thrown Out

Humphrey10

I think it's sad when listed buildings get pulled down for whatever reason - to build a place of worship, houses, parks, hospital, whatever. I think it should only happen where there is no alternative, once these buildings are pulled down they are lost forever.

Rotor

fluffnutter wrote: »

And the 'some of my best friends are gay'....

I'm not anti public sector but.........:p

Enterprise_1701C

mynameisdave wrote: »

Why would replacing an unsed building with one that would attract people to it lead to a slow death?

They would only use that building, they would park on the A30 (and probably ignore any tickets issued), cause traffic chaos and generally bung the main road to Camberley up. And the building would have been totally out of character, would have looked awful, and would have discouraged people from using Camberley.

The current building is not unused, they have been using it as a mosque for 15 years.

fluffnutter

vikingaero wrote: »

Why is it that people who worship any religion and attend that place of worship are the worst parkers in the entire universe? You often see vehicles abandoned at 45 angles, on pavements, in residents driveways etc etc.

TBF, you shouldn't see this outside synagogues as Jews aren't supposed to drive on the sabbath. One of my exes (Jewish) told me that at his synagogue everyone would drive but park a few streets away and then walk so as to appear that they'd walked the whole way. Thing is... they were all doing it, and waving to each other as they were getting out of their cars!

dacouch

I think minuets and mosques can look quite nice.

The RMA arguement is a smoke screen as being able to see into RMA is not that much of a threat, there are plenty of forces personel walking around the local towns that would be at more of a threat (If such a threat even existed).

Azari

fluffnutter wrote: »

TBF, you shouldn't see this outside synagogues as Jews aren't supposed to drive on the sabbath. One of my exes (Jewish) told me that at his synagogue everyone would drive but park a few streets away and then walk so as to appear that they'd walked the whole way. Thing is... they were all doing it, and waving to each other as they were getting out of their cars!

That 'no work on the sabbath' has to be one of the weirdest things for arbitrary rules made up long after the original law was set down.

How can they seriously maintain that driving a car is 'work' but walking isn't?

How can they seriously think that pressing a lift button is work but expending a great deal of energy in climbing stairs isn't?

fluffnutter

Jane_Blackford wrote: »

... the current one for 15 years, running it as a mosque..

It would kill the town (in my opinion at least) as it would have been on the main road into the town, the road would have been seriously compromised by the parking (bad enough on a Friday as it is)... Why will traffic be any worse than it currently is now seeing as the building's already being used as a mosque anyway? (See above)

Incidentally, the suspicion about the paymasters, or benefactors, or whatever you want to call them, is because the current building is a stones throw (literally) from Sandhurst RMA, and the minarets would have overlooked the parade ground. Being able to see a bunch of squaddies square-bashing hardly constitutes a threat to national security. And why should British Muslims be a threat anyway??

It is very difficult to stop a radicalised Iman (??) from taking over as they have at other mosques. Quite honestly, this would be a prime position for them. Pure paranoid speculation and hysteria. Suggest less reading of the Daily Mail to cure said paranoia and hysteria.

AS for drawing visitors in - I have NEVER seen a recognisably moslem person in the town centre shopping, they have their own shops at the top end on the A30 and do not frequent the main town. Thankfully they stay in their own ghetto and do not frequent the 'main town'.

I have moslem friends, and one of my friends genuinely is gay! Oh please.

Why not just admit you're a nimby at best and a little bit racist at worst? And I've always disliked the word 'Moslem' too. It's a bit like people who insist on calling Beijing 'Peking', or Mumbai 'Bombay' etc. But that's a minor point compared to some of the nonsense above.

fluffnutter

Azari wrote: »

That 'no work on the sabbath' has to be one of the weirdest things for arbitrary rules made up long after the original law was set down.

How can they seriously maintain that driving a car is 'work' but walking isn't?

How can they seriously think that pressing a lift button is work but expending a great deal of energy in climbing stairs isn't?

Plus lighting a fag is work. What a nightmare for those who smoke!

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Jane_Blackford wrote: »

They would only use that building

You have no proof of that

Jane_Blackford wrote: »

they would park on the A30

You have no proof of that

Jane_Blackford wrote: »

(and probably ignore any tickets issued),

You have no proof of that

Jane_Blackford wrote: »

cause traffic chaos

You have no proof of that

Jane_Blackford wrote: »

and generally bung the main road to Camberley up.

You have no proof of that

Jane_Blackford wrote: »

And the building would have been totally out of character,

In your opinion

Jane_Blackford wrote: »

would have looked awful,

In your opinion

Jane_Blackford wrote: »

and would have discouraged people from using Camberley.

You have no proof of that

Jane_Blackford wrote: »

The current building is not unused, they have been using it as a mosque for 15 years.

At the ninth attempt you manage to post something accurate.

Your post smacks of racist bigot.

Azari

fluffnutter wrote: »

It's a bit like people who insist on calling Beijing 'Peking', or Mumbai 'Bombay' etc. But that's a minor point compared to some of the nonsense above.

But why do we call Beijing 'Beijing' and not call Paris 'Paree' and Mexico 'Mehico' (and Einstein 'Einshtein')?

Of course, I do prefer to call Madras Chennai, Calcutta KolKata and pronounce Himalayas as Him-are-li-as.