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  • Peter_Pan
    Peter_Pan Posts: 791 Forumite
    Not unusual for an MLM. They seem to discourage the kind of blanket cataloguing that makes you initial money in Avon and Kleeneze. If anyone has dropped and collected a thousand catalogues and/or repeated an area more than twice I'd be interested in hearing their results.

    I don't know where you get the idea about them discouraging blanket dropping with brochures? we joined over a year ago and we have used that method from day one as we are ex Kleeneze and knew we could find customers that way. We don';t work with masses of brochures, i started off with using 20 -50 initially in our local village and then hubby joined after several months of seeing my results and we did some 100 brochure drops but are now just servicing customers and giving samples to upsell to them which is working well. We now have around 140 customers locally which we drop to once a month and around 30-40 will order at any one time. We know if we wanted to we could do more blanket dropping and build an even bigger customer base but we are also looking at doing local stalls and events now and i am on the HQ makeup training next week so will be looking at doing pamper evenings and parties as well after this.

    Debbie
    We love what we are doing and we love why we're doing it!!
  • Peter_Pan
    Peter_Pan Posts: 791 Forumite
    If the emphasis is on recruiting its not MLM its Pyramid Selling,
    and where does it say customers are paid to recommend other customers.

    The emphasis is not on recruiting, the emphasis is on making sales. The pay plan is very good for retailers.
    It doesn't say anywhere about customers being paid to recommend other customers, i personally have customers who ask us to drop a brochure into a friend down the town for example and as a goodwill gesture i offer them 10% of their next order if their recommendation orders. That is not Company policy but my own idea as an independent Distributor.

    Debbie
    We love what we are doing and we love why we're doing it!!
  • Peter_Pan
    Peter_Pan Posts: 791 Forumite
    There are several Companies I can think of where retailing with brochures is discouraged and is more based on changing over your own products and getting them at discount price and getting others to do the same which is a great idea in its own right but when we joined Wikaniko we wanted to show that in this economic climate people can also make a useful extra income from retailing with the brochures, doing parties, events etc and lets remember Wikaniko Distributors are also educators in that every product sold is not adding to the Planets problems and showing people we can make small changes and start living more in harmony with the environment so the more product sold and the more people that get a chance to hear and find out about Wikaniko the better for everyone which is why we like the brochure method.

    Debbie
    We love what we are doing and we love why we're doing it!!
  • PatrickD
    PatrickD Posts: 209 Forumite
    The great thing about Wikaniko, I've found, are the different ways the products can be marketed. Catalogue dropping is definitely one way, but won't suit everyone. I'm in agreement with The Analyzer, who stated that the best model of network marketing/MLM is a lot of people doing a little. Kleeneze seem to promote the opposite, a few people doing a large amount of sales to a large amount of customers through catalogue dropping. While this obviously works, I think its much more efficient, time and energy wise and a much better way of building passive, residual income, by using the products yourself, building a small customer base of, say 5 to 10 regular monthly customers and then teaching others to do the same. Done properly over a few years, this model can build a very substantial business providing mostly passive income. Going out every week for the rest of my days delivering and picking up catalogues would not be for me, though it can definitely work well for people only wanting a small to reasonable part time business. Its been proven to work, so no one can say it doesn't.

    Pat
  • patman99
    patman99 Posts: 8,532 Forumite
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    Trouble is, the more 'layers' there are between the supplier (Wikaniko) and the end-customer, the more expensive the product becomes to sell.
    For instance, if I were a distributor with 2 layers above me and I sold say, a bar of soap for £4.99, what would my commission be?.
    If it were only say, 5% (25p), then what's to stop me sourcing the same item from another supplier @ £3.79, adding-on 50p, then selling it to the customer and telling them that Wikaniko had a special on that item, so it cost less.

    In fact, given enough time, I could probably source 40% of the stock from elsewhere at a cheaper-enough cost to make a better profit.
    How would Wikaniko know if I were to collect the customers order forms, 'sift-out' the items I could get elsewhere for less, then create one purchase order for everything else and send that in to Wikaniko?.
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  • PatrickD
    PatrickD Posts: 209 Forumite
    You're not making 5% on a sale to a customer, you're buying at wholesale and marking up 33 - 45% (depending on your total monthly sales).

    Pat
  • jhp
    jhp Posts: 2,342 Forumite
    edited 1 November 2011 at 5:40PM
    PatrickD wrote: »
    Its been proven to work, so no one can say it doesn't.

    So are you saying that a lot of posts in the main Wikaniko Thread saying otherwise are a lot of tosh then.:D

    MAIN THREAD HERE. https://forums.moneysavingexpert.com/discussion/2515671
  • PatrickD wrote: »
    I'll declare straight away that I'm a distributor with Wikaniko and if anyone has any questions I'd be happy to answer them for you. I'm no expert as I've only been with the company for a matter of months,

    So you didnt join just to promote Wikaniko then ? ;)
  • PatrickD
    PatrickD Posts: 209 Forumite
    I'm not saying anything is tosh, though I haven't read that thread (didn't realise there was another one).

    When I said ''its proven to work'', I was referring to catalogue dropping. Kleeneze, Betterware and Avon are just 3 companies I can think of who have proved that it works.

    Maybe you thought I was referring to something else?

    Pat
  • PatrickD
    PatrickD Posts: 209 Forumite
    So you didnt join just to promote Wikaniko then ? ;)

    No, I joined to talk about upping your income subjects.

    Pat
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