MSE Pregnancy Club 22

Apricot

Big hugs Puzzled! Im glad you and the baby are both ok but you must be feeling very shaken up xxxx :grouphug:

madbird_2

pigpen wrote: »

Amanda.. they are not allowed to physically touch you without prior consent or you can sue them for assault. Babies know how to breastfeed.. some are a bit slow to come to grasps with it. Your supply increases with the demand so you will have plenty of milk after a week or so... unless there is something untoward going on. The simple list is.. do not hold the baby's head in your hand, the nerves they use for suckling run through the scalp so if someone holds their head they cannot suckle properly.. do not stuff the boob in the baby's face.. move the baby to the boob.. poke the nipple up its nose and when it opens it's mouth wide enough for the top of its head to fall off stuff in as much as possible.. BF was invented for lazy people!!

MSFC..I have developed carpal tunnel this time too.. I've not had it before.. hey, got to do something new! I keep waking up with numb crumpled hands and they both went into spasm last night on the way up.. I already have splints for my RSI (that's what 20 years of pushing a pushchair does for you ) but it is advised not to wear them forbed.. well I can't function wearing them during the day.. I can't even pick up a cuppa with them!!!

Are you saying bottle feeding for lazy people in that case I must be a lazy mummy then. But then when you've been so ill after giving birth, you can't physically lift a baby, have more drips and drains in more parts of your body than you care to think about, have an emergency CT scan at 3 am in the morning, plus projectile vomiting for days after giving birth then its probably a good job bottle feeding was invented. If I ever do a birth story then you'll get why I'm now a lazy mummy. Sadly it wasn't to be for me, I wish I hadn't had an emergency section and everything that followed, I've felt guilty I let my son down. I do try to express the little I can. If you mean breast feeding then fair enough. I tried every which way to feed him but couldn't.

delain

madbird wrote: »

Are you saying bottle feeding for lazy people in that case I must be a lazy mummy then. But then when you've been so ill after giving birth, you can't physically lift a baby, have more drips and drains in more parts of your body than you care to think about, have an emergency CT scan at 3 am in the morning, plus projectile vomiting for days after giving birth then its probably a good job bottle feeding was invented. If I ever do a birth story then you'll get why I'm now a lazy mummy. Sadly it wasn't to be for me, I wish I hadn't had an emergency section and everything that followed, I've felt guilty I let my son down. I do try to express the little I can. If you mean breast feeding then fair enough. I tried every which way to feed him but couldn't.

She said breastfeeding was for lazy people BF= Breastfeeding FF= formula feeding

I have four happy, healthy FF children and it has not affected them at all, I don't feel guilty, and you have a far more genuine reason than I did, so neither should you.

I realise not being able to BF if you set your heart on it is heartbreaking, and it still seems upsetting for you and have a dodgy hug on me :grouphug: and remember your son knows you love him, you are his world, and he doesn't mind where the milk comes from!

abby1234519

sparkle76 wrote: »

Hi everyone and welcome Amanda and any other newbies!

I am going to steal your baby! Then hopefully mine will be just as beautiful and they can be the best of friends.

I'm in a rather creepy mood today....I promise its a compliment that I want your child

Pixiepops

pigpen wrote: »

Amanda.. they are not allowed to physically touch you without prior consent or you can sue them for assault. Babies know how to breastfeed.. some are a bit slow to come to grasps with it. Your supply increases with the demand so you will have plenty of milk after a week or so... unless there is something untoward going on. The simple list is.. do not hold the baby's head in your hand, the nerves they use for suckling run through the scalp so if someone holds their head they cannot suckle properly.. do not stuff the boob in the baby's face.. move the baby to the boob.. poke the nipple up its nose and when it opens it's mouth wide enough for the top of its head to fall off stuff in as much as possible.. BF was invented for lazy people!!

Whether you mean bottle feeding or breast feeding, I don't think it's very fair for you to say that it's for lazy people.

If you're referring to bottle feeding then I don't see how it can be for lazy people. Making up feeds, making sure bottles are always sterile and even having to make sure you plan feeds when going out and take some with you. It's certainly not for the lazy. In my experience, the NHS already makes people feel guilty enough about bottle feeding. Nobody needs to be called lazy on top of that.

Secondly, if you mean breast feeding then I think it's even more insensitive. What about the mothers who persevere throughout breast feeding even though they're having a tough time with it? Many women go out to seek help from groups and phone support. Many find it painful, yet still work to breast feed their babies. Their partners can't get up in the night to feed the babies instead, unless the milk is expressed (again, not really lazy). Some people give a lot of devotion and time in order to succeed at breastfeeding. Calling them lazy is unfair and unreasonable.

You don't know whether people on this board have gone through a lot of trouble to feed babies either by bottle or breast. It's not easy for everyone and perhaps in the future you should think about how your comments come across as I find sometimes they're quite offensive.

madbird_2

Some use BF for bottle feeding so wasn't sure. I was grateful for the help the midwives gave me, they had a breast feeding specialist from somewhere, was too ill to take in. Yes they touched me, but I needed the help. And after having all and sundry round the action end while in labour a bit of boob touching was quite insignificant really.

Anyway my man is 11lb 8oz today!

delain

madbird wrote: »

Some use BF for bottle feeding so wasn't sure. I was grateful for the help the midwives gave me, they had a breast feeding specialist from somewhere, was too ill to take in. Yes they touched me, but I needed the help. And after having all and sundry round the action end while in labour a bit of boob touching was quite insignificant really.

Anyway my man is 11lb 8oz today!

That's a good weight

I dread to think how much Squeak weighs now, feels like 5 tons and she's only 11 months.

how is he sleeping? The first few weeks are really draining I know x

alison2020

Pixiepops wrote: »

You don't know whether people on this board have gone through a lot of trouble to feed babies either by bottle or breast. It's not easy for everyone and perhaps in the future you should think about how your comments come across as I find sometimes they're quite offensive.

I think that's a bit of an over-reaction Pixie. Pigpen's comment made me laugh as for me breast-feeding was torture and bottle-feeding was a piece of cake! Just shows how different everyones experiences are. I think we all know that there is nothing lazy about pregnancy, birth and looking after a baby!!!

Puzzled big hug. Can't believe the trouble you have with cars this month. Just glad you and bump are alright.

Sparkle, GORGEOUS picture!!!

Hi Amanda, congrats on the pregnancy. Good luck with your scan!

mrsspendalot

Evening all!!! Congrats to all the ladies who have had their babies .... I haven't had time to read back through.

My little piglet is now 3 weeks old and has piled weight on. He went from 7lb 2oz to 6lb 14oz after birth. When the HV weighed him at 15 days old he had gone up to 7lb 8oz, and a week later he has gone up to 7lb 15oz!!!! He is clearly thriving more outside than he was inside

He is settling into a nice feeding pattern now of roughly 3 hourly feeds day and night, so I'm getting a bit of rest in between feeds. He became really unsettled and was fussing at the breast loads, to the point I thought I was going to end up stopping, but it seems it was down to trapped wind and has passed now. We got some infacol and it sorted him out. He also really likes being swaddled, and it is the only way I can get him to sleep in his moses basket. I got a swaddle wrap thing from TK Maxx for £6 and it has been my best baby purchase to date, along with my widgey feeding pillow which I also highly recommend. He had his repeat bloods done at the SCBU and they came back clear. His jaundice has completely cleared now too.

Off to get some washing folded now before he wakes up for his last feed before I try and get some sleep.

Good luck and labour vibes to all the boldies

pigpen

madbird wrote: »

Are you saying bottle feeding for lazy people in that case I must be a lazy mummy then. But then when you've been so ill after giving birth, you can't physically lift a baby, have more drips and drains in more parts of your body than you care to think about, have an emergency CT scan at 3 am in the morning, plus projectile vomiting for days after giving birth then its probably a good job bottle feeding was invented. If I ever do a birth story then you'll get why I'm now a lazy mummy. Sadly it wasn't to be for me, I wish I hadn't had an emergency section and everything that followed, I've felt guilty I let my son down. I do try to express the little I can. If you mean breast feeding then fair enough. I tried every which way to feed him but couldn't.

er.. no.. I said breastfeeding is for lazy people..

And I had said a million times I breastfeed because I am lazy.. I do.. I will not sterilise and wash and make up formula.. it is hard work and I have better things to do.. but when it came to a bottle or a dead baby guess what choice I made!

I don't do birth stories.. I ended up with post traumatic stress twice.. I can't even think about the deliveries of 2 of my children without having a meltdown years later, I have to tell myself to stop out loud and make my brain think about something else consciously. Talking about it.. not a cat in hells chance.. Hence the MW wanting me to go to some stupid group thing.. obviously she doesn't know me as well as she thought (I have known her 17 years!)

I am just happy people here (in this country) have a choice.. 2 safe adequate ways of providing nutrition for their children.. and I don't give a toss what choices other people make.. I wouldn't do what anyone else told me so I wouldn't presume to tell anyone else... other than FF is much more work than I am willing to do!

DS1 is already chewing his GF's ears about bf their baby.. it isn't even due until March!