Buss Pass

mum2one

I got a disabled bus pass as I 'm on high rate mobility, and was the right side of 40...

birkee

Trialia wrote: »

First off - that YOU can't get your chair on the bus doesn't mean that other people can't, or that the buses in other areas are all. exactly. the same. as yours. Ignorant much!

No, my sister could NOT run in the London marathon - not alone, as you're proposing - or do a 4-minute mile. Apart from having other physical problems that you know nothing about, she can't go out by herself. Get the freaking message and stop trolling.


On related matters, I am so glad for my blood pressure that the ignore feature exists.

Nice one! Offensive aggression instead of discussion.

So.....Agoraphobia is not the only reason your Sister gets a bus pass, so you gave a false impression. You lied?

And no, because birkee can't use a bus pass, he doesn't think nobody else should have one. In fact I think they are a great idea.

Read my posts properly, and you will find that I question the reasons for free bus passes for conditions where saving on bus fares has no obvious benefit to the condition. i.e. Not being able to leave the house because of Agorophobia, or other reasons.

And trialia, if you want to start slinging terms like Troll about to support your point, lets try suggesting you are incapable of listening to somebody elses point of view, and start shouting the odds to overcome by bullying. If there is one thing I hate in life, it's bullies. The lowest form of life,.... so pull your head back in your shell.

birkee

Savvy_Sue wrote: »

Actually, I don't, I think you're confusing me with some other Sue ...

I have a mild hearing loss (and no bus pass), but there is a lot of deafness in the family.

I've just remembered that one of my fellow lipreading students does have a bus pass, because they can't hold a driving licence after passing out at the wheel a few times. I suppose because they can still walk that's a disgrace in birkee's world, but I can't get my head round what point he's trying to make. Because a bus pass is no use to him, no-one else should have one? Because a bus pass is no use to him, people who can walk shouldn't have one? Because he thinks deafness never affects your ability to walk, deaf people don't have mobility issues? wrong on so many counts ...

Plus I did say that if the bus pass is no use, then there used to be a taxi scheme instead - does that no longer happen, or was it only in certain areas?

And my class used to be more accessible than it is, because it used to be run by the local college. But obviously no deaf people work, so they stopped offering an evening class several years ago. Our tutor now works more freelance, rents spaces herself which are generally accessible. Only ours doesn't have access to a disabled toilet and may be about to be moved to a first floor meeting room with no lift, so maybe we shouldn't meet any more, or we should move to a less convenient area for most of us, or pay more (because atm we have a free space from someone's employer).

And how does getting a free bus pass help her? Does it stop her passing out? Is she unable to work without a bus pass?
I could go on, but I see it as just another way of getting something for nothing from the taxpayers.

I've got dyslexia, and can't read signs like "disabled parking only" and I need a carer to read my mail to me, so give me DLA and a free bus pass.
I'm colour blind, and can't drive because I can't see the colour of traffic lights, give me a bus pass.
And on and on and on and .....

jetta_wales

birkee wrote: »

Sorry, it seems to be YOU that doesn't understand.

I know mobility issues are not just about being able to move legs. It's difficulty being able to move your body for ANY reason.
Arthritus, MS, and similar conditions for instance.

NO

I have mobility issues but all my limbs work fine, can't see my hand in front of my face if the sun's out though! Even on the dullest of days I still can't see enough to be safe in a car park. I have HRM now the rules allow it but have always had an automatic entitlement to a BB because car parks are a very dangerous place for a blind person to be.

You could even argue (though it's ridiculous to have to) that some wheelchair users have less difficulty with mobility than a blind person because they can drive (not all of course hence I said 'some').

StephenM_2

Savvy_Sue wrote: »

I would think very few people who are ONLY deaf have a disabled bus pass, and even fewer would have a blue badge.

Confession time here. I'm ONLY deaf and have a bus pass (no blue badge though). I don't use it much, preferring to drive. I tend to use it when my car's in for service, or when I've had a few drinks.

GlasweJen

I have a bus pass for blackouts, how does it help? Well it doesn't help me get to work because I can't use public transport on my own. It is good to get about though, has a companion supplement so that I can go out with someone and they can make sure i'm still concious at the end of my journey.

I don't use it much because of the hours I do at work.

kingfisherblue

birkee wrote: »

And how does getting a free bus pass help her? Does it stop her passing out? Is she unable to work without a bus pass?
I could go on, but I see it as just another way of getting something for nothing from the taxpayers.

I've got dyslexia, and can't read signs like "disabled parking only" and I need a carer to read my mail to me, so give me DLA and a free bus pass.
I'm colour blind, and can't drive because I can't see the colour of traffic lights, give me a bus pass.
And on and on and on and .....

my son is colour blind and he has been assured that he will be able to learn to drive when he is old enough, as he will be able to learn the sequence of the lights (this is my youngest son, who does not have any disabilities - my older son is the holder of a disabled person's bus pass and he has complex needs). My father was also colour blind and was able to drive quite legally.

http://www.direct.gov.uk/en/Motoring/LearnerAndNewDrivers/LearningToDriveOrRide/DG_4022529

jetta_wales

kingfisherblue wrote: »

my son is colour blind and he has been assured that he will be able to learn to drive when he is old enough, as he will be able to learn the sequence of the lights (this is my youngest son, who does not have any disabilities - my older son is the holder of a disabled person's bus pass and he has complex needs). My father was also colour blind and was able to drive quite legally.

http://www.direct.gov.uk/en/Motoring/LearnerAndNewDrivers/LearningToDriveOrRide/DG_4022529

It does annoy me a bit when people hear I can't drive and say "oh is that because you can't tell the colours of the traffic lights?"

No you plonka it's because I'm registered blind! Lol. Being completely colourblind is the least of problems.

kingfisherblue

jetta_wales wrote: »

It does annoy me a bit when people hear I can't drive and say "oh is that because you can't tell the colours of the traffic lights?"

No you plonka it's because I'm registered blind! Lol. Being completely colourblind is the least of problems.

That must be really frustrating for you. For my son, it was a shock as it means he cannot be in the army or police (he's 11 and those were the two careers that he was really keen to follow - he just hadn't decided which option to go for). Other than that, though, it is more of a nuisance than anything. We had a pottery painting session with a local group that we belong to - a younger child was telling my son what the colours in the palette were . My son finds it a bit embarrassing at times, but it isn't really a big issue.

My other son, on the other hand, will never be able to drive because of his level of learning difficulty. He also has numerous other disabilities, but they would not prevent someone from learning to drive.

birkee

jetta_wales wrote: »

NO

I have mobility issues but all my limbs work fine, can't see my hand in front of my face if the sun's out though! Even on the dullest of days I still can't see enough to be safe in a car park. I have HRM now the rules allow it but have always had an automatic entitlement to a BB because car parks are a very dangerous place for a blind person to be.

You could even argue (though it's ridiculous to have to) that some wheelchair users have less difficulty with mobility than a blind person because they can drive (not all of course hence I said 'some').

You see (if you'll excuse the phrase) you do begin to understand.
You have difficulty with mobility because it is unsafe to do so without help or guidance.
Then we have the chronic heart conditions, and chronic Asthma sufferers, etc etc etc.

So how do you feel when a MS sufferer I used to work with, who worked full time in a manual job, and walked an awful lot round a large factory, nips into a disabled bay in his Motability car and leaves no bay for you?
I know it p**ses me off.

Addition:
Having said the above, I've had time to reconsider.
You are clearly not driving the car, so you have someone to act as your eyes for you. Where is the mobility difficulty?
And in case you read me wrong, I would rather have my eyes and my back, than your eyes and your back.
I consider eyes and ears as among the most precious of our possessions. Speech and being mentally capable next. My back comes well down the list. (I assure you it is not just "bad back" syndrome.)