Buss Pass

birkee

jetta_wales wrote: »

Any point to that post what so ever?

Or are we playing the "my disability's more deserving than yours" game?

Of course there is a point to this, and NO, it's not a claim that my disability is worse than yours.

It's a question of differentiating between 'disabilities' and 'mobility' issues, and why some disabilities qualify for bus passes and blue badges, when they have no mobility issues at all.

You can discerne the difference, can you not?

jetta_wales

birkee wrote: »

Of course there is a point to this, and NO, it's not a claim that my disability is worse than yours.

It's a question of differentiating between 'disabilities' and 'mobility' issues, and why some disabilities qualify for bus passes and blue badges, when they have no mobility issues at all.

You can discerne the difference, can you not?

I can but you it seems can not. Mobility issues are not just issues regarding the physical action of moving ones legs I don't know how many more times that can be explained to you.

Trialia

birkee wrote: »

Can you tell me, are there any blue badge bays there, and can I get a wheelchair into the building, or are there steps to negotiate?
Perhaps you haven't noticed, because you walk or catch the bus though.

Wow, catty tone much?

You know, being able to walk doesn't mean you can manage the stairs - nor does it necessarily mean that getting the bus isn't a problem. My friend who's in a wheelchair has an easier time on the bus than I do sometimes, because she's not forced to stand up if there aren't any seats, where I am and that can mean I can't walk when I get where I'm going. Savvy_Sue and I both have a condition that causes crippling pain from chronic joint dislocations, so she would take as much notice of whether there were steps into the building as I would - which is to say quite a bit! Eat your words...

Trialia

Also, birkee, my sister has severe agoraphobia and her psychiatrist wrote a letter to the council in her area to get her a bus pass because she can't go out unaccompanied and they're trying to acclimate her to public transport so she has less panic attacks being around people she doesn't know. So yes, some disabilities that don't necessarily seem to have mobility connotations can qualify.

birkee

jetta_wales wrote: »

I can but you it seems can not. Mobility issues are not just issues regarding the physical action of moving ones legs I don't know how many more times that can be explained to you.

Sorry, it seems to be YOU that doesn't understand.

I know mobility issues are not just about being able to move legs. It's difficulty being able to move your body for ANY reason.
Arthritus, MS, and similar conditions for instance.

The following posts to yours, saying that a wheelchair user friend has an easier time on the bus than her, because they don't have to stand. How ridiculous is that? I can't get my own wheelchair on the bus, and there would be nowhere for me to sit in a wheelchair if I could. There is hardly room to get a wheelchair in, and if you could, you couldn't use the bus anyway, because of existing passengers with pushchairs.

Then follows a silly post with "My Sister has Agorophobia", the fact that her Sister could run in the London marathon, or do a 4 minute mile isn't relevant? How will a bus pass or a Blue Badge help?

Trialia

birkee wrote: »

The following posts to yours, saying that a wheelchair user friend has an easier time on the bus than her, because they don't have to stand. How ridiculous is that? I can't get my own wheelchair on the bus, and there would be nowhere for me to sit in a wheelchair if I could. There is hardly room to get a wheelchair in, and if you could, you couldn't use the bus anyway, because of existing passengers with pushchairs.

Then follows a silly post with "My Sister has Agorophobia", the fact that her Sister could run in the London marathon, or do a 4 minute mile isn't relevant? How will a bus pass or a Blue Badge help?

First off - that YOU can't get your chair on the bus doesn't mean that other people can't, or that the buses in other areas are all. exactly. the same. as yours. Ignorant much!

No, my sister could NOT run in the London marathon - not alone, as you're proposing - or do a 4-minute mile. Apart from having other physical problems that you know nothing about, she can't go out by herself. Get the freaking message and stop trolling.


On related matters, I am so glad for my blood pressure that the ignore feature exists.

sunnyone

birkee wrote: »

Lip Reading classes?
That sounds interesting! Can I join?

Can you tell me, are there any blue badge bays there, and can I get a wheelchair into the building, or are there steps to negotiate?
Perhaps you haven't noticed, because you walk or catch the bus though.

You can can come to my deaf club, they hold lip reading classes and they make sure that the only BB bay is reserved for me as Im the only deaf wheelchair user/bb holder and the management have already agreed to rope off the two bays next to the bb bay if any other badge holder comes, most memebers get dropped off by family or catch the bus because while deaf people dont get BB's they do get bus passes.

GlasweJen

My lip reading classes are fully accessible too.

Savvy_Sue

Trialia wrote: »

Savvy_Sue and I both have a condition that causes crippling pain from chronic joint dislocations,

Actually, I don't, I think you're confusing me with some other Sue ...

I have a mild hearing loss (and no bus pass), but there is a lot of deafness in the family.

I've just remembered that one of my fellow lipreading students does have a bus pass, because they can't hold a driving licence after passing out at the wheel a few times. I suppose because they can still walk that's a disgrace in birkee's world, but I can't get my head round what point he's trying to make. Because a bus pass is no use to him, no-one else should have one? Because a bus pass is no use to him, people who can walk shouldn't have one? Because he thinks deafness never affects your ability to walk, deaf people don't have mobility issues? wrong on so many counts ...

Plus I did say that if the bus pass is no use, then there used to be a taxi scheme instead - does that no longer happen, or was it only in certain areas?

And my class used to be more accessible than it is, because it used to be run by the local college. But obviously no deaf people work, so they stopped offering an evening class several years ago. Our tutor now works more freelance, rents spaces herself which are generally accessible. Only ours doesn't have access to a disabled toilet and may be about to be moved to a first floor meeting room with no lift, so maybe we shouldn't meet any more, or we should move to a less convenient area for most of us, or pay more (because atm we have a free space from someone's employer).

Trialia

Savvy_Sue wrote: »

Actually, I don't, I think you're confusing me with some other Sue ...

*laughs at self* You're right, I was! I'm sorry. It's SingleSue who has the condition I have. My apologies.