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Tesco a rant
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Why would I have done so while on duty, I am not a police officer in the force that polices my village, I am not an officer who is trained to deal with such matters.
I am unsure how I have "abused my powers"? And as a detective I almost never wear uniform to work, I have all the rights of a police officer while in plain clothes, on duty or off.
CWC, you are never going to get anywhere with the sort of idiot who thinks that the correct first response to any situation is to call the police.
Any reasonable person can see that contacting Tesco was the sensible first approach and it was just unfortunate that the manager of your local branch was an buffoon who has, apparently, zero skills when it comes to handling the public.
Even if the drivers are not his responsibility he should have remained civil, noted your concerns and either passed on your complaints or informed you of the correct person to contact.
I think it is telling that you are being attacked by someone who seems to have no idea of the concept of 'community relations' and how they should be handled by the managers of a large, public facing, company.There are two types of people in the world: Those that can extrapolate information.0 -
You seem to have glossed over my post and just focused on one point which was a reply to another user.
Are the HGVs still driving down your street? Are you still banned from Tesco?
If he has any sense he'll ignore all your posts because you are either trolling or so woefully lacking in any understanding of 'proportionate response' as to make anything you say worthless.There are two types of people in the world: Those that can extrapolate information.0 -
CWC, you are never going to get anywhere with the sort of idiot who thinks that the correct first response to any situation is to call the police.
Back to name calling like CWC, that shows the true character of a person, resorting to name calling on an internet forum.
Just because your argument has no weight, you resort to name calling to try and distract from the facts, because you actually know you are wrong.Any reasonable person can see that contacting Tesco was the sensible first approach and it was just unfortunate that the manager of your local branch was an buffoon who has, apparently, zero skills when it comes to handling the public.
It would be reasonable to contact the correct person at Tesco to discuss the matter properly. Not turn up unannounced, with 2 sidekicks to have a go at the manager of the store.Even if the drivers are not his responsibility he should have remained civil, noted your concerns and either passed on your complaints or informed you of the correct person to contact.
Or basically just fobbed them off, is that what you are trying to say? You think the Tesco manager should have agreed with everything, done nothing and said thanks for complaining, goodbye?!
I guess the HGVs will have stopped driving down the road pretty sharpish then.I think it is telling that you are being attacked by someone who seems to have no idea of the concept of 'community relations' and how they should be handled by the managers of a large, public facing, company.
So now I am the one attacking? This is now way beyond pathetic.If he has any sense he'll ignore all your posts because you are either trolling or so woefully lacking in any understanding of 'proportionate response' as to make anything you say worthless.
I never said you shouldn't contact Tesco, what I did say is you should contact the correct person / people at Tesco, and you should do so in an appropriate manner.
Taking everything into account and the attitude of the OP in their posts, I do not believe their version of events at all. They have already admitted that "somebody" caused an obstruction in the road so that the HGV could not get past, which then caused an argument with the HGV driver, so there is no way that I believe they did not then take this same attitude to Tesco when they confronted the manager, with absolutely no proof at all. I believe they actually went to Tesco ranting and raving at the manager, who then kindly showed them the door.
The simple and just about only fact of this entire thread is, if you want road traffic regulations enforced, you need to call the police.
Yes Tesco do a lot nowadays, but sorry they do not enforce the law.
BTW, if this HGV driver had of caused damage to any cars or ran somebody over, I guess you will still have confronted the Tesco manager about that aswell?!0 -
a quicker solution would be to make a human chain near the start of the street when the lorry has turned in - once that's been done a few times they'll get the idea. I loathe Tesco.0
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CWC, you are never going to get anywhere with the sort of idiot who thinks that the correct first response to any situation is to call the police.
Any reasonable person can see that contacting Tesco was the sensible first approach and it was just unfortunate that the manager of your local branch was an buffoon who has, apparently, zero skills when it comes to handling the public.
Even if the drivers are not his responsibility he should have remained civil, noted your concerns and either passed on your complaints or informed you of the correct person to contact.
I think it is telling that you are being attacked by someone who seems to have no idea of the concept of 'community relations' and how they should be handled by the managers of a large, public facing, company.
I completely agree. I can't believe it's been misinterpreted as trying to intimidate someone?! And the post responding to yours still didn't address why calling the police would be the right thing to do. I remember watching a police programme, might have been Coppers, where they said that most phone calls they get are wasting their time and most people could sort out the problem themselves just by going round and having a chat with the person that is causing the problem. No wonder the Big Society idea is tanking if people just don't want to know each other and would rather go in guns blazing.0 -
katerinasol wrote: »I completely agree. I can't believe it's been misinterpreted as trying to intimidate someone?!
How exactly do you know that my interpretation of events is incorrect?
It is my interpretation, just as the OP has theirs, you either agree with that or you don't. Personally I don't agree with the OP.katerinasol wrote: »And the post responding to yours still didn't address why calling the police would be the right thing to do. I remember watching a police programme, might have been Coppers, where they said that most phone calls they get are wasting their time and most people could sort out the problem themselves just by going round and having a chat with the person that is causing the problem. No wonder the Big Society idea is tanking if people just don't want to know each other and would rather go in guns blazing.
1. I have already addressed that police enforce road traffic regulations. If you want enforcement of said road traffic regulations it is the police you need to speak to. Can I make it any clearer than that?!
2. If the problem is as bad as the OP makes out, then yes it is a police matter. If on the other hand it is just the OP making a mountain out of a mole hill, then yes that would be wasting police time. Also as they are a police officer, this may be the real reason they haven't contacted the police, because there is in fact nothing worthy to contact the police about and I suspect a very dim view would be taken when they find out it is a police officer wasting police time!
3. The tesco manager did not cause the problem and does not have any control over how to resolve the problem, so how does confronting him about it solve anything? To add to this, they already confronted the HGV driver, blocked his route on the road and argued in the street with him, so that is really the type of people that we are talking about here.
4. The OP, a police officer, did go in guns blazing, first of all to confront the HGV driver in the street and then to confront the tesco manager in store. Hardly the sort of behaviour you would expect from an off duty police officer.
Did the OPs actions work? No.
Will HGVs still drive down the street? Yes.
Do Tesco enforce road traffic regulations? No.
If the OP wants the HGVs to stop driving down the street will he have to contact the police, or at least get some evidence and take it to the HGV drivers managers? Yes.0
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