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NO...Cyclists don't ride on pavements or jump red lights at all.
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mustrum_ridcully wrote: »Why didn't you post these videos then (by the same bloke that uploaded the video you linked to)?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mtLKOK3jg4o
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1O_k2ixv7-w
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GOhBEmt-C9A
or this even
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sWxak4cwPzc
Anyone one of these incidents could have been fatal.
Yeah and Gaz545 is the pinnacle of road virtue. Here, is attempting to set of a speed camera. I wonder if would give any congratulations to a driver of a car, who would be able to achieve this?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8XHAmVqWH4c&feature=mfu_in_order&list=UL
I have never denied that there are many very bad drivers out there, the point has always been to counter the myth that it is always the drivers' fault.The greater danger, for most of us, lies not in setting our aim too high and falling short; but in setting our aim too low and achieving our mark0 -
passatrider wrote: »I'm sick and tired of all the constant bashing of cyclists that seems to be surfacing just lately.
Yes, there are bad cyclists as there are bad drivers but we are all people at the end of the day.
The real reason that motorists hate cyclists is that they slow them down thats all. We live in a fast pace world now and respect for others has gone out of the window. God forbid if anything such as a cyclist or horserider - in fact just about anything that dosen't keep up with the flow of traffic.
I fear things will only get worse to be honest. Britain is breeding a very aggressive and nasty set of road users where it's every man for himself.
Very sad!:(
No, that is not a "real reason," there is no institutionalised hatred of cyclists, thois is the myth perpetuated by those who want to blame the motorist for their own arrogance and failings. This is the type of post that flames your war.The greater danger, for most of us, lies not in setting our aim too high and falling short; but in setting our aim too low and achieving our mark0 -
Yeah and Gaz545 is the pinnacle of road virtue. Here, is attempting to set of a speed camera. I wonder if would give any congratulations to a driver of a car, who would be able to achieve this?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W9e-txPOoEw“I may not agree with you, but I will defend to the death your right to make an a** of yourself.”
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The only thing he does wrong here is go very fast down a road, where the speed camera is located is driveway/entrance to a property. If a vehicle was to pull out of there without sufficient observation it would not be pretty!Yeah and Gaz545 is the pinnacle of road virtue. Here, is attempting to set of a speed camera. I wonder if would give any congratulations to a driver of a car, who would be able to achieve this?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8XHAmVqWH4c&feature=mfu_in_order&list=UL
I have never denied that there are many very bad drivers out there, the point has always been to counter the myth that it is always the drivers' fault.
Cyclists can't get SP30's, I'm pretty sure it's not even illegal for them to speed?0 -
johnfarquhar74 wrote: »The only thing he does wrong here is go very fast down a road, where the speed camera is located is driveway/entrance to a property. If a vehicle was to pull out of there without sufficient observation it would not be pretty!
Cyclists can get SP30's, I'm pretty sure it's not even illegal for them to speed?
It doesn't matter if is or not, the fact is he was attempting it. As you say, if a car pulled out from that driveway, while he was concentrating on riding as furiously as he could, to get the safety camera to activate, he would have been toast. But seeing as there is a tendency to exonerate the cyclist in these circumstances, the driver would be blamed for someone else's stupidity.The greater danger, for most of us, lies not in setting our aim too high and falling short; but in setting our aim too low and achieving our mark0 -
No, that is not a "real reason," there is no institutionalised hatred of cyclists, thois is the myth perpetuated by those who want to blame the motorist for their own arrogance and failings. This is the type of post that flames your war.
No institutionalised hatred..are you sure??:eek:
I cycle for pleasure and the and I've lost count the amount of times I've had abuse shouted at me for no reason. Only today I was nearly knocked off because the driver gave me very little room while passing on a straight open road in the country.
*I'm also a driver*0 -
I find it hard to generalise every situation, but in the case of the video you posted, he is pedalling furiously, I believe, to set off the speed camera, he is not breaking the law(at least I don't think he is).It doesn't matter if is or not, the fact is he was attempting it. As you say, if a car pulled out from that driveway, while he was concentrating on riding as furiously as he could, to get the safety camera to activate, he would have been toast. But seeing as there is a tendency to exonerate the cyclist in these circumstances, the driver would be blamed for someone else's stupidity.
He is however taking a risk, the fact that he is travelling at such a rate and does not have a protective cage around him. If a car was to pull out on him it WOULD be the car drivers fault, the cyclist may well be exonerated but he would also, most probably, be dead.
This is the thing, motorists generally want cyclists to obey the relevant and applicable laws at all times (as they should), cyclists wish the same of motorists, that is all fair and well but when the 2 groups do come together, 1 is going to be a lot worse off then the other.
Maybe this is why some cyclists behave the way they do, a kinda self preservation thing?!?0 -
passatrider wrote: »No institutionalised hatred..are you sure??:eek:
Yes, I am sure.
I cycle for pleasure and the and I've lost count the amount of times I've had abuse shouted at me for no reason. Only today I was nearly knocked off because the driver gave me very little room while passing on a straight open road in the country.
*I'm also a driver*
I am also a cyclist, I drive a car, I have riden motorcycles, I have taken the occasional train and it has even been known for me to use a bus (although I would deny it, if you accused me of it
), I even fly an aeroplane. I am not here to denigrate the average cyclist who takes care on the road and co-exists peacefully with other road users. But it is the chain-crusaders who continue with the battle against other road users and pedestrians, denying that some cyclists make rods for their own backs. The greater danger, for most of us, lies not in setting our aim too high and falling short; but in setting our aim too low and achieving our mark0 -
johnfarquhar74 wrote: »I find it hard to generalise every situation, but in the case of the video you posted, he is pedalling furiously, I believe, to set off the speed camera, he is not breaking the law(at least I don't think he is).
Peadlling furiously, is an offence.He is however taking a risk, the fact that he is travelling at such a rate and does not have a protective cage around him. If a car was to pull out on him it WOULD be the car drivers fault, the cyclist may well be exonerated but he would also, most probably, be dead.
This is the thing, motorists generally want cyclists to obey the relevant and applicable laws at all times (as they should), cyclists wish the same of motorists, that is all fair and well but when the 2 groups do come together, 1 is going to be a lot worse off then the other.
Maybe this is why some cyclists behave the way they do, a kinda self preservation thing?!?
In the eyes of a biased inquest maybe. But morally, it would have been the cyclist's fault, for attempting to break the speed limit. If a driver of a car was to do that, they would be found at fault. Driving without care and attention, at the very least.The greater danger, for most of us, lies not in setting our aim too high and falling short; but in setting our aim too low and achieving our mark0 -
Peadlling furiously, is an offence.
In the eyes of a biased inquest maybe. But morally, it would have been the cyclist's fault, for attempting to break the speed limit. If a driver of a car was to do that, they would be found at fault. Driving without care and attention, at the very least.
Errmm, no, I don't think so.
Why did you start this thread again ? What's your agenda ?0
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