Bicycle accident help

dacouch

You can keep seeking advice, the chances are that the police will not proceed with prosecutions but will "ask" him to accept liability.

Make sure Morethan are aware of the police involvement, the officer dealing, station and crime ref, they won't chase that up as the police take weeks / months to send them reports but it scares the Insurers

Scooby_Doo.

rev_henry wrote: »

Driver is traceable and insured - no problem there Phil. Yes, I am going to sort some insurance! This is getting a bit ridiculous. Turns out I don't have legal cover on my home insurance but no matter - I shall sort it myself.

I went to give a statement at the police station today - had a phone call early today requesting I do so. Luckily I was dealt with by a policeman who is a cyclist himself and said himself he is one of the few who follow procedure and 'do this properly'. He took my statement and the case will be referred to the traffic collision department, who will then send him himself round to the drivers house to 'give him a piece of my mind' and strongly suggest that he accepts liability. Otherwise it will go to court for fail to stop after an accident (failing to give insurance/deal with it properly is as good as this), not reporting to the police within 24 hrs and possibly careless driving. He also told me to go to my GP to make a record of my injuries, because interestingly an accident is not an accident unless a PERSON or VEHICLE is damaged, and a bike is not a vehicle for this. So I went to the walk in centre, just so they had it on file that I sought medical attention for my injuries. Early indications from more than are that he is not accepting liability, yet.

Should I be careful in telling the internet at large all this now it is the subject of a police investigation? It's a bit late now, if this is going to court you really shouldn't have posted at all unless you know what can and can't be posted.

mikey I have a photo or two of my elbow and knee albeit not very clear. No my clothes seem fine actually.

You bike is a vehicle for the purpose of a collision under the RTA. A LGV could smash up street furniture and not be damaged itself so according to your police offficer he would not need to stop and report.

The police have no power to make him acceot responsibility, the only time he needs to do this is if they offer him a driver improvement course.

Scooby_Doo.

dacouch wrote: »

You can keep seeking advice, the chances are that the police will not proceed with prosecutions but will "ask" him to accept liability.

Make sure Morethan are aware of the police involvement, the officer dealing, station and crime ref, they won't chase that up as the police take weeks / months to send them reports but it scares the Insurers

There has been no crime so there won't be a crime number. OP has already said it's careless not dangerous driving.

dacouch

Scooby_Doo. wrote: »

There has been no crime so there won't be a crime number. OP has already said it's careless not dangerous driving.

I have not stated that it would be dangerous driving

Scooby_Doo.

dacouch wrote: »

I have not stated that it would be dangerous driving

So there will be no crime number.

Harry_Flashman

Scooby_Doo. wrote: »

There has been no crime so there won't be a crime number. OP has already said it's careless not dangerous driving.

Isn't failing to report an accident a crime?

OurKev

Harry_Flashman wrote: »

Isn't failing to report an accident a crime?

If there was no collision, surely the car driver does not have an accident to report?

NeverAgain_2

Most forces use a similar numbering system for 'incidents' - which do not have to be crimes, courts decide that.

The number will likely be the running total of reported incidents that day followed by the date.

So the 155th incident of today would be something like 'number 155 of May 15'.

Well done - again - to the OP, this time for getting the police to take a statement.

There was an element of luck in getting an interested policeman, but the OP seems to be putting his case over in a reasonable and coherent manner, which coppers like.

rev_henry

The policeman kinda implied they would try to get him to accept liability OR prosecute as you say dacouch. I'll get onto Morethan about it in the morning. To end this debate on crime ref numbers he has committed 2 possibly 3 offences: failing to provide insurance details (ergo failing to stop at scene of an accident), failing to report to police within 24 hrs and possibly careless driving. Regardless I have police incident numbers or whatever you want to call them.
Kev, the exact wording of the RTA is 'owing to the presence of a motor vehicle on the road.' not 'if a collision occurs with your vehicle', and he knew full well he was involved so yes he does have an accident to report.

I could start deleting stuff if needs be though Scooby...

Scooby_Doo.

NeverAgain wrote: »

Most forces use a similar numbering system for 'incidents' - which do not have to be crimes, courts decide that.

The number will likely be the running total of reported incidents that day followed by the date.

So the 155th incident of today would be something like 'number 155 of May 15'.

Well done - again - to the OP, this time for getting the police to take a statement.

There was an element of luck in getting an interested policeman, but the OP seems to be putting his case over in a reasonable and coherent manner, which coppers like.

No they don't.