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NS&I certificates

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  • gt94sss2
    gt94sss2 Posts: 6,220 Forumite
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    Now Citibank are complaining that the certificates are too good a deal..

    Regards
    Sunil
  • JamesU
    JamesU Posts: 1,060 Forumite
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    gt94sss2 wrote: »
    Now Citibank are complaining that the certificates are too good a deal..Regards Sunil

    Hopefully, the Government and Treasury do not pay much attention to recommendations from Citigroup. :D

    That said, there are some interesting (and possibly valid) points made in the whinge-article. In particular, the following is amusing but also has some truth to it:

    "They have, in effect, become a form of welfare for upper income savers," said the bank."

    In an ideal world when the the supply of certificates is limited due to high demand, I would prefer a preferential system to offer index linked certificates to protect pensioners savings as first priority, rather than savings for 40% taxpayers. But difficult to administer such a system, and divisive issues over fairness would probably arise, so guess this is unlikely ever to happen.

    JamesU
  • molerat
    molerat Posts: 35,016 Forumite
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    Applied 31 May, signature letter arrived 4 Jun so just waiting for the certificate now. Hope it will be soon as a fixed rate is ending 12th so funds should be in my account shortly after for another one.
  • TheMatrix_2
    TheMatrix_2 Posts: 113 Forumite
    masonic wrote: »
    I'm doing rather well then since my letter turned up today as well, but I didn't apply until the 20th May.

    It took about a week from sending the signature form back to getting the certificate.
  • adindas
    adindas Posts: 6,856 Forumite
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    I got my letter today to sign with self addressed envelope. Nothing mentioned about prove of address. I will return it tomorrow and will see how long will it take until I get my certificate.
  • LeifGR
    LeifGR Posts: 188 Forumite
    Applied 27/5.
    Money taken 28/5.
    Signature letter arrived 8/6.

    Seems not to be a consistent pattern...but hey, they have been surprised by the uptake.
  • ManAtHome
    ManAtHome Posts: 8,512 Forumite
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    gt94sss2 wrote: »
    Now Citibank are complaining that the certificates are too good a deal..

    Regards
    Sunil
    Wow, Abramovich is probably queueing right now to stick 15k in...

    Really surprising that that the banksters think that around 3% is "too good" for us plebs (and looks like Merv "check out my loadsa-flation pension increase you min-wage twonks" King agrees)

    Hope you're ok me quoting you Sunil - not shooting messenger, but yours was the only quote from the socially useless w@nk-batards...
  • I'm looking at these but we're saving for a deposit on a house - maybe next year, maybe the year after. What's the deal if you take your money out during the first year? Or is that just not possible?
  • castle96
    castle96 Posts: 3,010 Forumite
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    wading

    up to 1 yr, you get all money back. no fees, no interest
  • MarkyMarkD
    MarkyMarkD Posts: 9,912 Forumite
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    JamesU wrote: »
    Hopefully, the Government and Treasury do not pay much attention to recommendations from Citigroup. :D

    That said, there are some interesting (and possibly valid) points made in the whinge-article. In particular, the following is amusing but also has some truth to it:

    "They have, in effect, become a form of welfare for upper income savers," said the bank."

    In an ideal world when the the supply of certificates is limited due to high demand, I would prefer a preferential system to offer index linked certificates to protect pensioners savings as first priority, rather than savings for 40% taxpayers. But difficult to administer such a system, and divisive issues over fairness would probably arise, so guess this is unlikely ever to happen.

    JamesU
    But NS&I are offering these to raise money, not as the imagined "way to give savers a good return" that some are saying.

    As I've pointed out before, NS&I's interest is coming straight out of taxpayers' pockets. If they pay too much - and they are doing, by offering equivalent rates for higher rate tax payers of well over 10% - then that is taxpayers' money being wasted in the form of a subsidy to higher rate taxpayers.
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