Is it illegal to pass on your still valid bus day ticket to someone else

judywoody

catfish50 wrote: »

Speaking as an immigrant to this country myself (fifty years ago) I always think it's good manners NOT to rant on about how much better it was somewhere else.

I know :-) Sometimes it's too tempting ..

terryw

catfish50 wrote: »

Yes, it is, for good reasons. (People hanging around stations searching for discarded tickets with a view to selling them on, often to get money to buy drugs or booze -- different from your case where you were giving the ticket away)

I've passed on tickets many times to people known to me, and I personally don't consider it wrong to do so, even though it is indeed illegal.

It is interesting that Ebay regularly pull listings of current train tickets for sale...this is presumably because of pressure from the train companies.

Outpost

It's not a rule that I'd lose a lot of sleep over breaking.

catfish50

judywoody wrote: »

I know :-) Sometimes it's too tempting ..

Don't find it so, myself. I love this country.

dzug1

judywoody wrote: »

Ok, just found the T&C for the saveaway ticket and it says they are not transferable. But I would like to see the law that goes with it? ..

That makes it contract law in the absence of anything more specific. You are breaching your contract with the company.

paddedjohn

Its the same with pay and display tickets in car parks, you pay for 3 hrs and return after 2 but you are not allowed to pass the ticket to anyone else, you have paid for the space so it should be up to you to decide what happens to it until your time is up. I normally stick mine to the machine if i cant find a taker for it.

Stigy

It is certainly a breach of Railway Byelaws to use a transfered ticket. On the bus it would be harder to prove unless using London Buses which have their own Byelaws. On other Buses operated by franchised companies, they'd more than likely be using Civil Law and the County Court system to recover the costs of such misdemeanors (No tickets that I can think of are transferable, it's just that with daily tickets it hard to prove). If however you were caught on the train and reported by an official, they'd be using the National Railways Byelaws (2005) to bring offenders to justice, therefore using Criminal Law and the Magistrates' Court.

Altghough morally wrong, it would be extremely difficult to prove an offence of the nature the OP describes, unless she shouts it from the rooftops. There's no reason for the bus comapny to believe anything untoward is happening.

dzug1

paddedjohn wrote: »

Its the same with pay and display tickets in car parks, you pay for 3 hrs and return after 2 but you are not allowed to pass the ticket to anyone else, you have paid for the space so it should be up to you to decide what happens to it until your time is up. I normally stick mine to the machine if i cant find a taker for it.

Wouldn't work in some places - you have to type your reg no into the machine when you buy your ticket

janninew

paddedjohn wrote: »

Its the same with pay and display tickets in car parks, you pay for 3 hrs and return after 2 but you are not allowed to pass the ticket to anyone else, you have paid for the space so it should be up to you to decide what happens to it until your time is up. I normally stick mine to the machine if i cant find a taker for it.

I use to stick my ticket on the machine at my local town centre, you can only pay for a minimum of 1 hour (at the cost of £1.30) and sometimes I only nip to the Library and my ticket still has 50 odd mins left. I did this one day last month and the council ticket man told me off!! Now I just flag a car down in the car park before they park and pass it on, they always seem very grateful!

Tilt

The person who the ticket is being passed onto would be avoiding paying his/her fare thus an offence is being comitted under 'obtaning services or goods by deception'. all tickets will have 'not transferable' on them and the ticket in fact is not what is being purchased... it is the right to travel for the person who originally buys the ticket.