swap from DLA to PIP

allen35

DLA is awarded based on how your illness affects you and an indefinite award doesn't necessarily mean for life.

If mobility/care needs have decreased and you don't meet the criteria for the award given it is the claimants responsibility to inform DWP of the change of circumstances.

Cpt.Scarlet

darlyd wrote: »

This is the first I have heard of this.

I receive DLA medium and lower rate indefinitely for a silent illness, And I work part time.

How will this affect me?

Beyond the legislation, which is included in the new Welfare Reform Bill, there are little if any details of how PIP will work and there are certainly no details of what the criteria will be, so I wouldn't worry about it at the moment.

Morglin

sparky260500 wrote: »

I think i need some help why is everyone scared about changing from DLA to PIP surely if you need help with care and get DLA then you will still get PIP also if you need help with getting around you get mobilty part of DLA and surely will continue when they change to PIP just because they change the name of the benefit it doesnt mean people need less help. The way i see it is the only people that should worry are the people that should not be getting DLA in the first place

Well, if the current state of ESA is anything to go by, whether someone is genuine will have very little to do with it.

I mean, these 3 were obviously genuine, but in 'ATOS land', they were fit for work:

http://afteratos.org/2011/05/01/3-claimants-die-fit-work-atos-!!!!!!!s/


However, this change from DLA to PIP hasn't actually been sorted out yet, it's not due to start for at least a couple of years, and who knows what will be going on by then?

This government do a U Turn a week, the latest being the manifesto pledge that private providers will replace most public services, (and now they won't be doing much at all lol) so I certainly don't think this proposed DLA change is worth worrying about, at this point.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-13273932

Lin

tinyjean

Cpt.Scarlet wrote: »

PIP is not yet law, although it seems unlikely that it won't be passed and with little if any amendment.

The government has said it expects to save at least 20% of the current DLA budget, so it is reasonable to assume that a lot of people currently receiving DLA will lose their benefit.

I agree.

I'm registered as blind and I know a lot of people who are disabled, and I think a lot of people may lose some of their benefits.

Not only will DLA change to PIP, but also, Severe Disablement Benefit is also going, with nothing to replace it that I know off. also, Incapacity Benefit is changing.

When DLA Middle Rate Care goes, will carers still get their Carers Allowance or Carers Premium???

In my opinion, PIP is about saving money.

Since April this year, some Blind people have been allowed to claim middle rate mobility of DLA, but with PIP. if a blind person has a guide dog, then they may lose this, or part of it, as the guide dog helps them be more mobile.

As a blind person, I may not qualified for the low rate care of DLA with PIP.

I've had sore (sometimes painful) watery eyes all my life and in recent years I've had 4 operations on my eyes (with 2 transplants) with a lot more operations to come in the future.

I've spent my whole life as a carer for my disabled brother who gets middle rate care of DLA, so I also get the Carer's Premium and Severe Disablement benefit. And when Severe Disablement Benefit goes I'll be worse off, then I may also lose the Carer's Premium.

Also, as a Carer, I have a spare bedroom, so that my disable brother can stop over if he wants too, which he does, but when housing benefit changes, I will lose £11 housing benefit, for having a spare bedroom.:(

My brother, needs a lot of support, so he will qualify for PIP, but he will lose Severe Disablement Benefit and he pays about £55 a month to towards his community care, as he gets a Personal Assistant 6 hours a week.

When everyone is reassessed, the people doing the reassessment, may not have training in all disabilities or illness. Not all the questions for the assessment will cover every disability or illness.

PIP is about what people CAN DO, not what they CAN'T DO because of the disability or illness.

kingfisherblue

Tinyjean, there is no middle rate mobility - some visually impaired people now receive high rate mobility due to a change in the rules since April.

cit_k

pip will mean stricter eligiblity rules, and 1 in 5 people kicked off dla.

Invalidation

So me being told I was 'Disabled for life' in 1993 wont mean anything then?. Curious how they can lie through their teeth and smile at the same time.

If one is told at one point that one is 'Disabled for Life' as I was, one tends to plan their life accordingly, if one is then told one isnt 'Disabled for life' because the goalposts have moved then there must be some form of negligence involved.
The PTB cannot simply move the goalposts and not expect some rather nasty retaliation, which there will surely be if they decide to reclassify me, and, I suspect, others.

anguk

Cpt.Scarlet wrote: »

DLA has the lowest fraud rate (0.5%) and the highest under claim rate, so an awful lot of people who deserve this benefit are going to lose it even though there will have been no improvement in their condition or circumstances.

I can understand that. My husband gets high rate mobility and middle rate care, he's been very lucky that he's never had to have a medical and has been awarded them straight away with no hassle.

However his care needs have changed and I think he's probably now entitled to high rate care but we've heard so many stories of claims being denied, appeals, incorrect medical reports etc that we're frightened of "rocking the boat" so haven't made a new claim.

Jo4

kingfisherblue wrote: »

Tinyjean, there is no middle rate mobility - some visually impaired people now receive high rate mobility due to a change in the rules since April.

Is there any where I can view more information regarding this?

SuziQ

redz- knowing how hard the forms are (My youngest is on HRC, LRM) how on earth do people claim fraudulently? I have had to have medical/professional proof of his conditions and needs, which has been followed up by the assessors. I can sort of understand how professional, organised fraudsters could do this, but ordinary people living on a council estate? I find that a stretch. I also don't think this should be on the benefits board as it's discussion rather than benefit advice.