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swap from DLA to PIP

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  • cryer
    cryer Posts: 1 Newbie
    edited 19 July 2011 at 6:31AM
    I too am scared. I am deaf and have cerebral palsy. My husband had a cruel streak in him and periodically attacked me and my daughter. I have a damaged neck due to his attacks. I had a benefits advisor call on me who told me that I was entitled to the high rate of both conponements. Dla now helps me in many ways. This advisor also told me that dla was compensation for the life i could have led without C.P.etc...
    I am now AN OLD AGE PENSIONER LIVING ON MY OWN. I use dla to make my life more comfortable, taxis etc. Do you think this government will take my dla away or reduce it, forcing me to try and sue it, the government, for hospital mismanagment during the 2nd world war??? Quite frankly, i am totally fed up. This worry is making me worse... I have not felt like doing anything for days and feel sick of life already!

    I was originally awarded dla for life. Then last year, indefinitely. Now this year my award says that I may be reassessed at some time! My nerves are so bad that i am beginning to get on my family's nerves with the worry of it all: and i do not want to go out and have been sick and bad not wanting to get dressed, as it is difficult for me. I also have bad headaches and have been in hospital with them. Socialising for me is hard for me. I have a disabled brother and daughter! That is all I have now as my lovely parents have died. My cousins are well heeled, have grandchildren, and have no interest in me - and nobody else has either! I tend to get bullied and now have arthritis to add to the toll. Feeling sorry for myself was never on my adgenda. But these fears i have are making me more depressed as I have agoraphobia and claustophobia as well. I have had enough medicals and assessments in my life and people like me should me awarded a lifetime's pension it would be cheaper for the government!
    How would this government like to be disabled and shut away: they are no christians!!...
  • redz wrote: »
    Do I have to repeatedly re-iterate what I posted until it sinks in?

    No, you have sufficiently and constantly reinforced the fact that you are a bigotted prat.
    But I mean, if you want to continue feel free, but I think the hole you have dug for yourself is quite deep enough?
    The DWP = Legally kicking the Disabled when they are down.
  • rogerblack
    rogerblack Posts: 9,446 Forumite
    cryer wrote: »
    I am now AN OLD AGE PENSIONER LIVING ON MY OWN. I use dla to make my life more comfortable, taxis etc. Do you think this government will take my dla away or reduce it,

    Unfortunately, the past awards of DLA mean relatively little, when reassessing for PIP.
    However.
    As I understand it, pensioners will not be reassessed, and will continue to get DLA at the existing rate.
    (please note, I've not looked at this in detail)
  • mcculloch29
    mcculloch29 Posts: 4,972 Forumite
    Rampant Recycler
    The Welfare Reform Bill, which was to put these plans into action (ie DLA to PIP) has been delayed. Here's the information. http://www.disabilityalliance.org/welreform5.htm
    Erma Bombeck, American writer: "If I had my life to live over again... I would have burned the pink candle, sculptured like a rose, that melted in storage." Don't keep things 'for best' - that day never comes. Use them and enjoy them now.
  • Stanai
    Stanai Posts: 41 Forumite
    I have just been awarded medium rate care and low rate mobility for an indefinate period but I am not very happy because I know that in 2013/2014 all existing claimants have to reapply for PIP and face further assessment and they are scrapping one of the care rates, they're only gonna have standard and enhanced level care, I do think the severe disability premium will be revised to suit the new system but I am still worried about my level of income dropping to less amounts however the only hope I have been offered is the fact that Disability Alliance are taking DWP to court about the proposed new PIP system as they believe it breachs disability rights etc. so hopefully the proposed change could be totally kicked out of parliament or they will reconsider the finer details of the new system to make sure all disabled people are treated fair and do not lose out
  • Im no expert but surely the changes to DLA breach to sections of the Convention of Human Rights:

    Article 22 "Everyone, as a member of society, has the right to social security and is entitled to realization... of... economic, social and cultural rights" You have the right - by virtue of being a human being - to have your basic needs met. Everyone is entitled to live in economic, social and cultural conditions that allow them dignity and let them develop as individuals. All countries should do everything they can to make this happen

    Article 25 "Everyone has the right to a standard of living adequate for... health and well-being" Every human being has the right to a decent life, including adequate food, clothing, housing, medical care and social services. Society should help those unable to work because they are unemployed, sick, disabled or too old to work. Mothers and children are entitled to special care and assistance.
  • flexrider
    flexrider Posts: 745 Forumite
    PIP is not yet law, although it seems unlikely that it won't be passed and with little if any amendment.

    The planned implementation is to start in 2013, but there are no details of how the transfer of existing DLA claimants will be made, except that there will be some sort of assessment.

    Children and anyone reaching Retirement age are expected to exempted from the transfer.

    The government has said it expects to save at least 20% of the current DLA budget, so it is reasonable to assume that a lot of people currently receiving DLA will lose their benefit.

    Presuming this idot Goverment i presume they will test DLA receiver's like they have been doing for people on ESA with atos appointments, Dunnos why we just dont call England the private united states of england as this goverment is so copying the private helthcare or just bring back the workhouses. i guess that comes in 2014 when all else fails.
    "MSE Money saving challenges..8/12/13 3,500 saved so far :j" p.s if i been helpfully please leave me a thank you but seek official advice at all times from a pro
  • flexrider
    flexrider Posts: 745 Forumite
    cryer wrote: »
    I too am scared. I am deaf and have cerebral palsy. My husband had a cruel streak in him and periodically attacked me and my daughter. I have a damaged neck due to his attacks. I had a benefits advisor call on me who told me that I was entitled to the high rate of both conponements. Dla now helps me in many ways. This advisor also told me that dla was compensation for the life i could have led without C.P.etc...
    I am now AN OLD AGE PENSIONER LIVING ON MY OWN. I use dla to make my life more comfortable, taxis etc. Do you think this government will take my dla away or reduce it, forcing me to try and sue it, the government, for hospital mismanagment during the 2nd world war??? Quite frankly, i am totally fed up. This worry is making me worse... I have not felt like doing anything for days and feel sick of life already!

    I was originally awarded dla for life. Then last year, indefinitely. Now this year my award says that I may be reassessed at some time! My nerves are so bad that i am beginning to get on my family's nerves with the worry of it all: and i do not want to go out and have been sick and bad not wanting to get dressed, as it is difficult for me. I also have bad headaches and have been in hospital with them. Socialising for me is hard for me. I have a disabled brother and daughter! That is all I have now as my lovely parents have died. My cousins are well heeled, have grandchildren, and have no interest in me - and nobody else has either! I tend to get bullied and now have arthritis to add to the toll. Feeling sorry for myself was never on my adgenda. But these fears i have are making me more depressed as I have agoraphobia and claustophobia as well. I have had enough medicals and assessments in my life and people like me should me awarded a lifetime's pension it would be cheaper for the government!
    How would this government like to be disabled and shut away: they are no christians!!...

    My heart goes out to you i was reading how this goverment sent cancer patients and a man with a bad heart back to work who died 2 weeks later form the stress of waiting for confirmation of his DWP ESA claim.

    here is the sky news report and a fw others blogs on the matter

    http://news.sky.com/home/uk-news/article/16094872
    http://www.viewshound.com/politics/2011/5/the-sick-left-to-perish-by-new-uk-benefit-rules

    Thing is this system dont work for anyone and costs more to implement then what it does awarding someone 69 pound a week to live off...Hence the appeals being so high for it.
    "MSE Money saving challenges..8/12/13 3,500 saved so far :j" p.s if i been helpfully please leave me a thank you but seek official advice at all times from a pro
  • rotoguys
    rotoguys Posts: 599 Forumite
    edited 8 January 2012 at 1:54PM
    One of the easiest ways to defraud the DWP with a DLA/PIP/ESA/AA/IIDB claim is to:

    1. know how to fill out the claim form in the first place.
    2. Make sure that what you are claiming you can't/can do relates to your condition and make sure that it ties up with the DWP's handbook on Medical Conditions.
    3. Go and see your GP and tell her/him what you are claiming you are having difficulty with. It is better if you set it down in writing in a simple way showing what the problems are. The GP will scan and enter the info on their computer as a factual report of your problems and will be referred to whenever there is a report required for the DWP.

    That's it.

    Oh I forgot, for goodness sake be aware that there are quite a lot of people about that would be more than ready to report you to the DWP if they saw you running for a bus but claim not to be able to walk!!

    Any claim for DLA, or any disability benefit is geared to how the claim form is completed, what you say when asked at an ATOS examination, how you fit into the relevant boxes and that you have a decent GP report.

    And for those that think I am condoning beneft fraud - I am NOT. Everybody is entitled to know how to do it, it's up to them if they carry it out.
  • HB58
    HB58 Posts: 1,787 Forumite
    There was wide consultation about the proposals to replace DLA with PIP - but the replies and comments were never made public.

    Disability campaigners have used FOI requests to get hold of some of these replies and it hit the news yesterday that Boris Johnson has made unfavourable comments.

    I wonder how many other individuals and organisations were also against it - it appears that these responses were conveniently 'buried' by the government!

    The Lords are due to vote on the Welfare Reform Bill next week but, the way things are going, it looks as if it will go through with only minor ammendments :(.
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