Help no mot, tax out in 4 days.

vaio

sarahjayne1977 wrote: »

Well as far as i know a MOT is required by law!..I wasn't saying its everything, but its a good starting point to make sure a lot on car are safe, also with a MOT means insurance is valid.
If everyone who owned a car kept everything in order, most of us people who always make sure MOT, car tax and insurance is in order would have a lot cheap insurance. Maybe then i wouldn't have to pay £250 quid a year for mine:D

Maybe I'm just being thick but just what is the link between the OP forgetting to MOT his car and your insurance being so expensive at £250?

The best guess I can come up with so far is "none at all"

Flyboy152

Dippypud wrote: »

This tells it like it is,

http://www.ukpoliceonline.co.uk/index.php?/topic/20759-getting-caught-with-no-mot-fine/

as we have said, £60 non-endorsable fine, but garages that are 'cheap' for MOT are cheap for a reason, they "find more faults" to get the repair work.

You could have booked the MOT last month as molerat said, then you're MOT runs for 13 months or you've a month to sort any probs.

No you haven't. If the car fails the MOT, it doesn't have an MOT anymore.

vaio

Flyboy152 wrote: »

No you haven't. If the car fails the MOT, it doesn't have an MOT anymore.

Evidence for that?

I didn’t think there was any way of cancelling an MOT, once issued it remains valid until its expiry date

Flyboy152

vaio wrote: »

Evidence for that?

I didn’t think there was any way of cancelling an MOT, once issued it remains valid until its expiry date

I would have thought it was logical. If your car has been declared as unroadworthy, it would be illegal to drive it on the highway.

Dippypud

Flyboy152 wrote: »

I would have thought it was logical. If your car has been declared as unroadworthy, it would be illegal to drive it on the highway.

Since when did anyone put logic and the RTA in the same sentence.?

Dippypud

You can now apply for an e-mail reminder for your MOT,

which will keep the boys in blue and their ANPR cameras happy, as long as you go and get it tested.:D


http://www.ukmot.com/MOT Reminder.asp

Flyboy152

Dippypud wrote: »

Since when did anyone put logic and the RTA in the same sentence.?

Do you think you should be allowed to drive an unroadworthy car on the highway?

asbokid

Failure of an MOT test is evidence that the car, at the time of the test, was not roadworthy.

However, if there is already a valid MOT certificate and the reason for the MOT test failure is immediately remedied, then the car is still roadworthy, and it is perfectly lawful to drive it on the road.

The risk is that if the MOT failure points are not remedied then, in the event of a serious road accident, the cops would pursue the MOT failure as prima facie evidence of negligence.

But even that isn't categoric proof of negligence. If the cause of an accident has nothing to do with the failure point in the MOT, then it has no bearing on negligence.

Flyboy152

asbokid wrote: »

Failure of an MOT test is evidence that the car, at the time of the test, was not roadworthy.

However, if there is already a valid MOT certificate and the reason for the MOT test failure is immediately remedied, then the car is still roadworthy, and it is perfectly lawful to drive it on the road.

In which case, it will not have failed the MOT test, it will have passed it.

The risk is that if the MOT failure points are not remedied then, in the event of a serious road accident, the cops would pursue the MOT failure as prima facie evidence of negligence.

But even that isn't categoric proof of negligence. If the cause of an accident has nothing to do with the failure point in the MOT, then it has no bearing on negligence.

But the fact will still stand that the driver will have knowing driven an unroadworthy car on the highway.

asbokid

Flyboy152 wrote: »

In which case, it will not have failed the MOT test, it will have passed it.

Hehe! Splitting hairs a bit!

My car has a valid MOT certificate until May 10th. I took it for an MOT today but it failed on a wiper blade and a blown headlamp bulb.

The MOT garage doesn't do repairs, so can't remedy the defects at the time of the test. I have to book a re-test on another day once the repairs are done.

However, the motor factors in town sells wiper blades and bulbs, so I buy myself a blade and a replacement bulb and I fit them myself, and drive home, completely lawfully.

On the way home from the test centre, it is dark and it's raining and I'm involved in a nasty accident (the other driver was speeding). The cops attend and as part of their accident investigation they establish, whether through VOSA records or through my own admission, that the car failed its MOT earlier that day, on defective lights and wiper blades.

However, at the time of the accident, I did still have a valid MOT certificate AND I had remedied the MOT faults in the vehicle. At least in those respects, there is no legal case to answer. The car was roadworthy and had a valid MOT certificate, even though it had failed its most recent MOT test.

But the fact will still stand that the driver will have knowingly driven an unroadworthy car on the highway.

Sure, but then the cops can still argue that whether you have an MOT certificate or not. I might have no MOT and travel to a pre-arranged appointment at an MOT station, but if I have an accident en route because of known vehicle defects, I'm probably going to find myself in trouble just the same.