Problems with Neighbours

anoneemouse

Abbafan1972 wrote: »

If you want your own private garden to do what you want, then you should have bought a house and not a flat.

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For your information - houses cost more than flats.

Assuming you were aware of this fact - have you got any constructive suggestion as to how O.P. can raise enough money to cover the money that would be needed to buy a house then (there will be the difference in price between the house and flat just to start with - and that could be tens of thousands of £s - depending on what part of the country O.P. is in).

System

mandycr wrote: »

this kind of post really annoys me surely kids should be kids long gone are the days when kids are seen and not heard i agree with others u should have thought more carefully when purchasing your flat the comunial garden isnt just for u to have your peace and quiet and to dry your laundry its for the kids to play also, as for marking the pavements surely u done that as a child (hopscotch), r u telling me that the kids should go elsewhere and play out of the mothers sight down some random park or hang around the streets where anything can happen to them?? me personally i like my kids to stay where i can see them....

as for the harsh remarks then your post was just asking for it

Did you actually read the OP's post or did you just jump straight on bandwagon?

mrs-h_3

Why doesnt the op go out if the noise that bad???? The kids are obviously being told to play there and like has said before its a communal garden what do you expect? Its not like the noise continues well into the night is it? I have dealt with far bigger neighbour issues than this, and whilst i appreciate it can agitate i don't see what the op can do, apart from shut the windows, get ear plugs, move or go out!

dreavi

OP I can sympathise I live in a block of flats and the kids next door often decide to raise hell at 11pm when I have to get up for work at 4am. I asked nicely and was told to get stuffed by the parent essentially. If it happens now I just make a roughly equivilant amount of noise at 4am when i get up they soon got the message.

On topic to all the people saying kids will be kids, that is fine but there is a line and it sounds like these kids have crossed it. I would just keep complaining to the parents, not sure how to escalate though

AliceBanned

eco wrote: »

you have to suffer it to understand it. i own a house and the 2 either side are rented, i've been there the longest and before anyone say's move, why should I, the tennants in those don't think there's a boundry wall or a fence they think if there ball comes in my garden it's perfectly ok to trample my plants to get it, and I understand the noise and the parents been nowhere in sight, that's why they send them out, they don't want to be pestered they think it's the job of the neighbours to keep an eye on there kids.

When we were kids we were told to go to the park if we wanted to make a lot of noise and not disturb the neighbours and as for running into other peoples gardens whenever to get a ball that was a no no, my mum would have had a fit if we were a nuisance, but that doesn't count these day's kids are allowed to do what they want when they want and no can tell them otherwise. My hope is all the people who thinks it's reasonable to listen to that kind of noise on a daily basis and not complain get the same thing themselves in a few years cos they'll change there tune fast enough.

Not all tenants are inconsiderate imbeciles - I doubt whether it matters whether the houses either side are rented or not - I get sick of this attitude that tenants are some kind of dirt that should not cross the path of the high and mighty homeowner. It doesn't matter if you've been there the longest either. Your neighbours sound inconsiderate but they are that way, not because the houses are rented. The snobbery and self-congratulation of some homeowners is not exactly socially responsible either. Also if you want to continue to feel superior I suggest you give your posts some validity by using spellchecker. :rotfl:

Gambit

Thanks to all but one for the constructive comments. In response to that 'kids should be seen and not heard' comment, I have repeatedly said that there are other familes in the block who do not make half as much noise as this one families kids so if two familes can control their kids, why cant this one.

Should have mentioned, we have started going out into the garden and using it in order to send a message that the garden is for everyone and one of two things happen. Either the kids get called in and we are left in peace which is bliss or they are let allowed to do what they want and run/cycle around us as close as possible. I mean two weekends ago we kept moving our blanket away from them to let them play but they kept moving around and following us... I will perserve with this though in the hope that they realise that the garden isnt only theirs.

mummyroysof3 - When you asked are they out there alone did you mean without parent supervision? If so, most of the time. They are normally the only people out there along with the kids from another family (who dont make the noise) so usually it's 5 kids out there, 3 of which are making 75% of the noise. Only us and one other neighbour really uses the garden a lot so not many others come out.

Thanks again to all those who see my point of view even if you dont agree with it. It's nice to see most forum members dont just give unconstructive comments using things like my signature against me in order to try and shoot me down and make me sound like a nutter

Hamish453

Just to say I completely agree with Gambit. I recently moved to a ground floor flat and, despite there being 11 other flats in the stair, the only ones I ever hear are this bloomin family! Its the fact they treat the communal stair and the garden as their own you know? Shouting at each other, storing all their bikes and buggies right outside my front door (a fire hasard I think), shouting out the window that the kids need to come up for lunch etc etc.

Yes I admit I hate kids, but I do understand everyones point about they need to go out to play. But, like the OP, I have issues with one very large family that seem to be extremely inconsiderate - being woken up early every Saturday morning is no fun :-( Yes, they are better than having students with parties etc, I don't mind the running and toy banging i can constantly hear from the ceiling as it does quieten down at a reasonable hour, its the lack of consideration when they are in the communal stair and garden - where, like OP said, acoustics are majorly amplified! I wouldn't put loud music on at midnight - i never even put my washing machine on after 9pm!! So similar consideration on weekend mornings would be appreciated...

Plus last week I noticed that the brickwork around my bedroom window (faces onto garden) has been coloured in..... I've only jsut moved in so can't say for sure if it was done before i moved in or after, so can't really say anything to the parents, but I am sooooo not impressed!!

Soz, didn't mean to hijack thread - just wanted to show support and say you're not alone or being unreasonable in the slightest!

Gambit

Hamish453 wrote: »

Soz, didn't mean to hijack thread - just wanted to show support and say you're not alone or being unreasonable in the slightest!

Thanks Hamish453 :beer:

Not a hijack at all... glad that there are people that understand my predicament and aren't saying unhelpful things like 'well just move then' as that really isn't the point since I shouldn't have to move and moving isn't a straight forward affair anyways.

It's just a shame that there are people in the world that are so inconsiderate of others and think they are the only ones that matter. I mean you see that a lot in London (tubes, trains...etc..) but when you have to deal with people like that at home it just slowly drives you crazy

J_i_m

Supermarkets and carparks are ideal grounds for inconsiderateness, always raises my blood pressure :P It seems to be more of a cultural thing though really, I'm not convinced that people go out of their way to be inconsiderate or anti-social, it's just that it simply doesn't occur to many people how their actions effect others.

The problem is, confronting such a thing so often makes it worse.

Amanita_2

You have my sympathy OP. I am lucky enough to have a house with a private garden and no children within earshot ( and that was an absolute requirement- I've served my time listening to the screams as well)

I find it sad that the "rights" of people with young children are more important than the "rights" of the rest of us without them. As a child I was never allowed to annoy the neighbours and my own children were brought up to be considerate of others.