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justice4agents

teamspirit wrote: »

the job at morrisons mentioned in an earlier post suddenly seems appealing. I wonder if they get deductions if someone does a runner with a leg of lamb!

your_a_joke_provi wrote: »

welcome - no one knows who you are..... Put your area please

my area is norfolk

empowerthepeople

I believe that unless you all come together as a group you will just go around in circles and the momentum you are generating here will be lost very quickly.
You will need individual branch volunteers to coordinate the following:
1. Compile a list of all agents and contact numbers within your individual branches.
2. Contact all other branches to get their lists.
3. Add these individual branch lists to a petitition.
4. Financially club together and send a representitive to a firm of employment law for advice.
5. Report your findings and documentation back to each branch.

Once the above has been accomplished you can decide on your next move.
My advice from here on in is when ever you have a meeting with your GM or AM then document everything ie take minutes, particularily if it is a verbal meeting only.
After a period of approx 6 weeks work out your 'losses' because you will have factual evidence.

you can turn this around but you all need to be together.

dmic

gumiebear11 wrote: »

text message received from manager,saying if we need help to reach our sales targets,they will help generate them for us,what a joke were was the managers when we needed help getting the arrears calls done???? which they have not done now for months we wouldnt all be losing so much money now if the managers got off their backsides and did the arrears calls,and helped us with this issue,they are ment to be dms ( development managers ) huh dont think so only thing they have developed is unrest and unhappy agents losing commission each week....:j

The clue is in the title Development Manager, not arrears manager, to develop a section although more recently the role is more of an admin position.I think if you ask most DM's they would rather be knocking doors on arrears calls, but their time is used up on other aspects of the job imposed over the last couple of years.The decision to impose these commission adjustments were made at HO and not by the DM's who are genuinely concerned to how this is affecting the agents.
Its not just the agents that have been targeted over the last 18 months there have been job losses at Head office and in the field, managers bonuses were restructured and are few and far between, and a considerable amount less than in recent years. If an agent is getting large amounts deducted from their commission week on week, then I would suggest they needed re training or a change of career.

Angry_Norfolk

You may guess by the name. Lol NORFOLK an GOOD.

YOUR_A_JOKE_PROVI

empowerthepeople wrote: »

I believe that unless you all come together as a group you will just go around in circles and the momentum you are generating here will be lost very quickly.
You will need individual branch volunteers to coordinate the following:
1. Compile a list of all agents and contact numbers within your individual branches.
2. Contact all other branches to get their lists.
3. Add these individual branch lists to a petitition.
4. Financially club together and send a representitive to a firm of employment law for advice.
5. Report your findings and documentation back to each branch.

Once the above has been accomplished you can decide on your next move.
My advice from here on in is when ever you have a meeting with your GM or AM then document everything ie take minutes, particularily if it is a verbal meeting only.
After a period of approx 6 weeks work out your 'losses' because you will have factual evidence.

you can turn this around but you all need to be together.

thanks for advice - what area are you??? - this is the first leg - lets sort ourselves out into areas.......... come on we got to get the ball rolling......

YOUR_A_JOKE_PROVI

COME ON GUYS PUT YOUR AREAS..... THAT WAY WE CAN RE-GROUP INTO A STRONGER TEAM INSTEAD OF INDIVIDUALS .... I KNOW ITS BEING MONITORED BUT NO ONE KNOWS YOUR REAL NAMES SO LETS STOP PLAYING AT THIS - LETS GET SERIOUS ABOUT IT :beer: OLDHAM

YOUR_A_JOKE_PROVI

Angry_Norfolk wrote: »

You may guess by the name. Lol NORFOLK an GOOD.

brill - already a couple from Norfolk so your off to a flying start already - try to encourage as many as you can - its the only way to be heard and not be singled out

empowerthepeople

YOUR_A_JOKE_PROVI wrote: »

COME ON GUYS PUT YOUR AREAS..... THAT WAY WE CAN RE-GROUP INTO A STRONGER TEAM INSTEAD OF INDIVIDUALS .... I KNOW ITS BEING MONITORED BUT NO ONE KNOWS YOUR REAL NAMES SO LETS STOP PLAYING AT THIS - LETS GET SERIOUS ABOUT IT :beer: OLDHAM

I don't think it necessarily a good idea to publically state your individual locations when you post on this site because you can guarantee all of the comments are being monitored by your managers and individuals, could be singled out if already under suspicion. the last thing you want to be told is that there is not a 'clip' available to you which in itself is threatening intimidation. (another point of law)
However, you can all contact each other once you have a contacts list from your branches, this way you will not be in the public domain being scrutinised by your managers :lipsrseal

YOUR_A_JOKE_PROVI

empowerthepeople wrote: »

i don't think it necessarily a good idea to publically state your individual locations when you post on this site because you can guarantee all of the comments are being monitored by your managers and individuals, could be singled out if already under suspicion. The last thing you want to be told is that there is not a 'clip' available to you which in itself is threatening intimidation. (another point of law)
however, you can all contact each other once you have a contacts list from your branches, this way you will not be in the public domain being scrutinised by your managers :lipsrseal

surely asking for a contact list will alert more suspicion?? - no manager knows the id of anyone on here!! They may think they do but at moment deny deny deny - trust me they are in such a mess over this they are not going to refuse any agent willing to work. So come on guys get your areas down then i got a plan

scooby088

NotHappyAtAll wrote: »

They can't sack everyone, Provident would collapse, rounds would fall apart, and it would take a long time to pull them all back.

They can sack everyone, but then again you are self employed so can also leave whenever you want. As for those thinking of jumping ship a word of advice shopacheck are using PDA'S are used for taking customers payments as well as banking too. They are gradually getting rid of the clerks.

I do believe agents are bearing the brunt of the new practises but i am sure there are plenty of people who are bending over and taking it too. At the end of the day provident will say if you don't like it leave, i can guarantee that with every agent that leaves there will be two people willing to replace you.