What do you feed your dog apart from tinned food?

OnAndUp

Quote: Cereals (minimum 4% wholegrain); Derivitives of vegetable origin; meat and animal derivitives (minimum 4% chicken); oils and fats; minerals. With antioxidants butylated hydroxytoluene (BHT) and butylated hydroxyanisole (BHA). With preservative potassium sorbate


Aren't BHA & BHT thought to cause cancer too?

Kinski

OnAndUp wrote: »

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Aren't BHA & BHT thought to cause cancer too?

They are, they're also banned in human food.

jetta_wales

We feed Royal Cannin mini dry food but mix it with more moist foods sometimes like Hi Life moist or bakers meaty just for variety for them. The Hi-Life moist was about £10 for 6kg so will help to keep costs down a bit while we're saving for an upcoming large expenditure but still half their food is Royal Cannin.

We also add lots of things when we have them like canned macrel in sunflower oil which they love (and we doo too actually), any left over meat or suitable bones, any of my Mums leftover mesh or bones (they really love it when Mum comes over, can't think why lol) or leftover veg, mash with a bit of gravy etc. They love veg more than a lot of people's kids do actually, nothing ever really goes to waste in our house and they often get some really great meals from us not wanting to let leftover meat or bones go to waste.

ivylinn

jessnjimmy wrote: »

My 2 cocker spaniels are on Burns and have been since pups.

They are 9 and 8 and never been ill ever. They have butchers tripe tins mixed in with the lamb and rice canine alert version. Its vat free so not as expensive as the regular Burns.

They are both neutered and I find Burns keeps them nice and trim.

I feed mine burns lamb and rice they seem to find their meals very exciting. :T

sheltieLinda

I have got three shelties, one lazy girlie, and 2 boys who compete in Agility. Prior to my seperation and consequential drop in income, they were all fed on James Wellbeloved and very happy on it. I was forced to review my finances and tried several other brands, and have settled with Burgess SupaDog. My dogs love it, it comes in all sorts of flavours, and there is a working variety too, which is VAT free! All 3 have at sometime or the other had minor tummy upsets and itchy skin, but touch wood they are all very happy and healthy on the Burgess. I get it in large bags from Pets at Home, and pay approx £15.00 for it, sometimes a bit more or less, depending whats on offer at the time.

I NEVER feed tinned food, ive always found it makes my dogs smell (wind!), its not good for their teeth either, and then there is the question of washing the tins out etc. Dried food gets my vote every time!

I also agree with other posters, Bakers (AKA Bonkers) is to be avoided at all costs, cheap and nasty.

The other thing i noticed with the original post, is that the food appears to be left down all day. Just wondered why that is?

I suppliment my dogs food with any left overs, (not pork) chopped veg, occasional pigs ears and bonios, oh and the odd choc chip cookie!!! :rotfl:


PS i see there are several other sheltie owners on the forum, are they also members of All4shelties forum by any chance?

Linda

Big_mike

Just wanted to add that I feed my two Vizsla http://www.workinghprs.com/content/salmon-potato-30kg and I can't believe how well they have done on it in the couple of weeks especially the reduced output from the back end!! The interesting things is that i have been told that it is made by the same people who make Burns, Arden Grange, James Wellbeloved and loads of others. Some of the recipes he sells don't appear to be as good as this Salmon one ( I think he also does a grain free on which is Duck??)

Just wanted to add, my two were fed on BARF for years until one of them developed an allergy to lamb, the vet thinks some lamb protein got into the blood stream some how and he developed this allergy. Have to be so careful now. Also there is plenty of research to show that 1/3rd of raw fed dogs shed Salmonella in their faeces (http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC339295/) so we would have had to stop anyway when our toddler came along. Landywoods supplied us on very reasonable terms (http://www.landywoods.co.uk/)

After the BARF we fed Fish4Dogs which was great but very expensive (>£50 for 12kg!!!) before a chap in the village told me about the Salmon and Potato they are both now on.

Cheers, hope someone finds that useful.

Mike and his two ginger dogs

Rev

Big_mike wrote: »

Just wanted to add that I feed my two Vizsla http://www.workinghprs.com/content/salmon-potato-30kg and I can't believe how well they have done on it in the couple of weeks especially the reduced output from the back end!! The interesting things is that i have been told that it is made by the same people who make Burns, Arden Grange, James Wellbeloved and loads of others. Some of the recipes he sells don't appear to be as good as this Salmon one ( I think he also does a grain free on which is Duck??)

Just wanted to add, my two were fed on BARF for years until one of them developed an allergy to lamb, the vet thinks some lamb protein got into the blood stream some how and he developed this allergy. Have to be so careful now. Also there is plenty of research to show that 1/3rd of raw fed dogs shed Salmonella in their faeces (http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC339295/) so we would have had to stop anyway when our toddler came along. Landywoods supplied us on very reasonable terms (http://www.landywoods.co.uk/)

After the BARF we fed Fish4Dogs which was great but very expensive (>£50 for 12kg!!!) before a chap in the village told me about the Salmon and Potato they are both now on.

Cheers, hope someone finds that useful.

Mike and his two ginger dogs

Ingredients are quite deceptive.

Ingredients:!
Fresh salmon (min 26%), potato (min 26%), oats, maize, salmon meal, beet pulp, refined poultry fat, dicalcium phosphate, salmon oil, minerals and vitamins..

Listing fresh salmon looks better to us, but they list the percentage before the moisture has been taken out. Once that's done you're looking at about 3% actual salmon meal going into the food. I know salmon meal appears down the line but that's after oats, maize and potato. So three fillers and a small amount of meat. Doesn't say how much salmon meal, but obviously less of that than oats, maize and potato, and there's only 26% potato.


http://www.dogfoodproject.com/index.php?page=meat-meal


I'd imagine there's only about 10% actual meat in that food. The duck and potato looks much better, having 26% actual meat in it.

Arden Grange and burns are made my two entirely separate companies, and James Wellbeloved is made by master foods, the same company that makes pedigree, so if they did a grain free food it'd be all over the telly and cost much much more. So I fear you've been led up that garden path with that one.

Big_mike

I spoke to the guy who sells it on the way back from my morning walk and he seems to think you don't understand the difference between the company that sells a product and a the company that makes a product, apparently the manufacturer is Golden Acres and they do make Burns, Arden Grange, James Wellbeloved, Pets at home and others. Have a look at the website as it quite clearly shows them bagging JWB, AG etc. He did say it may be only some recipes?

http://www.goldenacres.co.uk/GAbrochures.shtml

He also showed me a bunch of other smaller brand names that have the same recipes as he is selling but at much bigger prices, I dunno as he showed me on the screen it all seemed to make sense?

With regards the ingredients, the site you referenced is American are you sure that the definitions hold true in the UK? He said a lot of US brands had to pull out of selling in the EU due to the much higher levels of regulation over here. Also whoever wrote the page isn't exactly balanced in their views!

Let me begin by stating that I personally am not in favor of feeding dogs dry kibble, period.

All I can say is that it suits my dogs and by the sounds of it the PAH suits your dog. Chances are it is made on the same production line :T

Cheers, I dunno but if there are any other questions I could ask him to come and answer if that is allowed??? I dunno enough about it myself

Kinski

Big_mike wrote: »

the manufacturer is Golden Acres and they do make Burns,

Burns have their own factory and farmland both of which are in Wales. I remember a few years ago there was some talk about Burns being made else where and I got in touch with them, I got an e-mail back saying they made their own food in their own factories, of course things may have changed.

Big_mike

http://www.penlanfarmrange.co.uk/burnsstory.html

This is how Burns Pet Nutrition was born. John went into producing his own pet food, Burns Real Food, with Golden Acres -our pet food production partner, this dry dog food range –encompassed as many of his core values as possible. The dry food market has been the foundation of Burns Pet Nutrition for the past 16 years and the company has grown from strength to strength each year.