CSA1 Case closed for 5yrs but now REOPENED!

AnxiousMum

Fortunately for children here in the UK, even if you are in a non REMO country, (still not sure that you ever actually were though - as you just state that you told them you would be in a non REMO country on your lawyers advice?) the CSA can deduct payments from anywhere that is in the UK and paying you. Guess your lawyer wasn't that sh*t hot eh?

infant2801

AnxiousMum wrote: »

How's your wife holding up through all this deception? What country did you relocate to - and are you REALLY living there......

Please, excuse me again, I am 67 years of age!

You say I should work more! I have worked 40 years continuous for the MOD and 10 years previous to that for the NHS, I cannot work anymore, I have done my time.

I have a decent salary because I have worked hard and achieved this throughout my life.

I live 6 months carribbean and the rest of time in UK, I now live on my occupational pensions and the government now also pays my full state pension.

infant2801

13Kent wrote: »

I will answer your question. My husband and I chose to get married knowing full well that we would be re-assessed by the CSA when we did so. And yes, we were honest and we did inform the CSA about our change of circumstances. The amount we had to pay increased significantly when my details were sent to them, despite assurances that my income would not be taken into account when the assessment was done - they only needed it to see if the assessment was likely to be less.

We got married with the expectation that the assessment would increase. Why would you do that you may ask?? Well we wanted to move on with our lives. If we didn't get married because of the CSA then it meant that his ex was still controlling our lives and dictating how my husband lived his life years after they had separated (the separation occured before we got together and it was not my husband's choice - he fought hard to keep his family together).

Is it fair that she should still be controlling his life years after her decision to completely change his life in the first place - she had a series of affairs and decided that he could no longer live in the house that he had paid the mortgage on for many years, and made him a weekend Dad instead of a Dad that had the privilege of putting his children to bed every night.

For that reason we chose to "bite the bullet" and make that change - and yes it has cost us more but we were the ones in control of our future not her.

But was it not just a case of there is nothing you could do about it anyway...so lets show her we are getting married...to make her a little bit hurt....

I never wanted to move in with my partner or anyone really and only did ask her to move in when the CSA give me that large 1st assessment. I just thought let her move in, she'll be happy, her house sale will pay off this mortgage and really I won't be paying the CSA 1 PENNY, cause the mortgage will be down to £200pm (freeing up £500) and indirectly my partner would be paying it.

kelloggs36

infant2801 wrote: »

Thank you Kellogs for replying:

No,I never actually moved into the rented address, but I can prove it was officially my address, even paying the council tax, so they cannot reassess. CS1 rules state that it is your actual residence that you can get housing costs for, not any other property, so if you weren' t living in the place, the assessment was wrong and should have been based on the property you were living in. It doesn't matter even if the property wasn't even yours - but a partner's, you would have still got all the housing costs offset against your income up to 50% of your net income's worth

When they asked for a re-assessment nealy 6 yrs later, I was then earning £700.00pw, I give the new rented address and they allowed me £92.00pw housing costs. My maintenance re-assessment was increased to £150.00pw.What were the housing costs for the place you were actually living in?

All this has come about because the PWC other child became 16 yrs(different NRP) about 12mths after my partner moved in, the CSA said they should have re-assessed to increase so that I pay the full carer allowance and family premium.

The CSA never carried out a re-assessment and now they are looking to charge me for all that time, just looking for someone to blame, I think.even if they make a mistake, the fact that you knew that an assessment was imminent but didn't happen means that they can indeed go back and do the assessment now - they had notified you of it

I don't think what you said that on the 1st assessment if I had told them we were earning £3,200pm net - surely they would have expected her to pay toward the £734.00 housing costs? Not as a matter of course no. As I said, the PWC would have had to have applied for a departure on the grounds that your partner could have contributed towards the housing costs for this to have happened. It was not part of the normal assessment. Many PWCs aren't aware of this, so they don't bother applying

Or have I been through all of this for nothing

If your housing costs for the place that you actually lived were lower then your rented, then you may find that you have arrears to pay.

kelloggs36

13Kent wrote: »

I will answer your question. My husband and I chose to get married knowing full well that we would be re-assessed by the CSA when we did so. And yes, we were honest and we did inform the CSA about our change of circumstances. The amount we had to pay increased significantly when my details were sent to them, despite assurances that my income would not be taken into account when the assessment was done - and they were not used to increase the assessment - what your partner was getting was a discount because on his own he was deemed to have less disposable income to pay the full amount, so they reduced the amount to what he could afford. You living with him frees up his disposable income, but your income is not used to determine how much his actual assessment is. EG, his assessment is £100 per week, yet with his protected income as a single person, he only has £50 per week to pay with, so his liability is £50 per week, not £100. Your income added to his in the household income means that he now has the £50 plus your income, so he can now afford to pay the £100 per week. Your money is used as disposable incomethey only needed it to see if the assessment was likely to be less.

We got married with the expectation that the assessment would increase. Why would you do that you may ask?? Well we wanted to move on with our lives. If we didn't get married because of the CSA then it meant that his ex was still controlling our lives and dictating how my husband lived his life years after they had separated (the separation occured before we got together and it was not my husband's choice - he fought hard to keep his family together).

Is it fair that she should still be controlling his life years after her decision to completely change his life in the first place - she had a series of affairs and decided that he could no longer live in the house that he had paid the mortgage on for many years, and made him a weekend Dad instead of a Dad that had the privilege of putting his children to bed every night.

For that reason we chose to "bite the bullet" and make that change - and yes it has cost us more but we were the ones in control of our future not her.

Good for you - not to let the system grind you down! You can hold your heads up high as you have done right by all the children involved - despite her best efforts.

Strapped

:rotfl:This troll has certainly got a few hot under the collar. C'mon folks, none of you really think he's for real do you?

kelloggs36

infant2801 wrote: »

I'm on CSA1, see you quite rightly ionformed CSA of your new baby because it would get a reduction in your reqired maintenance amount.

I would really like to know, please are there any NRP's who informed the CSA of their new partner moving in, AFTER the CSA assessment was made.

That's all I did was not inform them, as we are legally not obliged to....is anyone going to agree I have NOT broken the CSA rules, please?

At that point no, you haven't BUT by lying about your address, you have broken the rules as you were given housing costs you were not supposed to have if you were living elsewhere.

Rebecca01

A 67 year old called Infant, who never saw his child as an infant.

Is he for real?

Who knows!

outofmoney

infant2801 wrote: »

I never wanted to move in with my partner or anyone really and only did ask her to move in when the CSA give me that large 1st assessment. I just thought let her move in, she'll be happy, her house sale will pay off this mortgage and really I won't be paying the CSA 1 PENNY, cause the mortgage will be down to £200pm (freeing up £500) and indirectly my partner would be paying it.

You really care about the people in your life don't you!

infant2801

outofmoney wrote: »

You really care about the people in your life don't you!

It seems I don't, but I'm certainly paying for it, emotionally now...