Windows doesn't "just work"

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A+, would read again

BackOnTrack

I just noticed the thread title here is Windows doesnt just work rather than XP doesn't just work. I assume you have tried each flavour of windows to show it doesn't work or would that ruin your argument seeing as later versions work just as well as the noddy version of linux you choose to use? Only when you compare it to a 10 year old M$ OS do you see the differences.

Oh btw the manufacturer is still to blame they could have chosen to install linux as many other netbooks did at the time. They chose to install a less functional OS instead. Their choice and their fault.

Think you need to fsck /brain

Mr_Oink

BackOnTrack wrote: »

I just noticed the thread title here is Windows doesnt just work rather than XP doesn't just work.

We've always known you were a bit s l o w :rotfl:

BackOnTrack

Mr_Oink wrote: »

We've always known you were a bit s l o w :rotfl:

What a great response :T

23n1th

BackOnTrack wrote: »

I just noticed the thread title here is Windows doesnt just work rather than XP doesn't just work. I assume you have tried each flavour of windows to show it doesn't work or would that ruin your argument seeing as later versions work just as well as the noddy version of linux you choose to use? Only when you compare it to a 10 year old M$ OS do you see the differences.

The reason XP was installed, as I've already said, is that Vista didn't work.

Are suggesting I first spend money on licences for Vista basic, home, business, ultimate, windows 7 starter, home, professional and ultimate, xp professional, etc.

Don't be silly why would I do that?

The fact is that a full up to date version of linux is able to run on that hardware fast whilst if you go the windows route you're stuck with a slow out of date OS or a slow up to date crippled version.

Oh btw the manufacturer is still to blame they could have chosen to install linux as many other netbooks did at the time. They chose to install a less functional OS instead. Their choice and their fault.

I think again you'll find you're wrong, nothing new there then, if I was you I'd use something like google to find out about M$'s licensing and power they have when it comes to manufacturers before typing.

Think you need to fsck /brain

I think that if I'd been continuously wrong throughout a thread, like yourself, I'd consider that or a reboot.

You're obviously running on windows though so maybe for you should: chkdsk BRAIN: /R Maybe you should scan for viruses and defragment as well!

free4440273

Of course it works/ until u install updates ....

JJ_Egan

Problem with the netbooks and Linux was simple the customers did not want Linux . Mainly because they had never used anything but Windows .
I remember reading an in-depth article ten or so years ago claiming that Linux would soon be the OS of choice . Still waiting does not look like it will get above minority sales .
However i would not be at all surprised if a move to Linux is kicked off by the move to Android in the mobile world .

jje

Mr_Oink

JJ_Egan wrote: »

Problem with the netbooks and Linux was simple the customers did not want Linux . Mainly because they had never used anything but Windows .

True enough.

JJ_Egan wrote: »

I remember reading an in-depth article ten or so years ago claiming that Linux would soon be the OS of choice . Still waiting does not look like it will get above minority sales .

As a (largely) free operating system I'm sure it will stay in 'minority sales'.

As for the OS of choice - perhaps not on the DESKTOP, but in enterprises it is very prevalent - usually in devices doing the heavy lifting and mission critical stuff. You've probably got a cut down embedded version of it on your home router that is allowing you to surf to this web page right now :-)

JJ_Egan wrote: »

However i would not be at all surprised if a move to Linux is kicked off by the move to Android in the mobile world .
jje

Being Android is *nix based and all that - there is definitely mileage in that train of thought.

Linux {used in a generalization meaning distributions thereof} is a particularly nice operating system after a relatively short but steep learning curve. It's a pleasure to use, things just 'work' and it puts pleasure back into computing for many. I don't miss that slow installing, random crashing, slow booting, pagefile swapping, constant updating, weak security, chuggish and plain ugly windows. It's really rather horrible when you get used to better operating systems. The reason people don't flock away in droves comes down to familiarity with the OS and application availability on other platforms. If commercial developers would actually write their windows software to run flawlessly in native Linux versions (something both Microsoft & Apple may well object to) - I suspect uptake would increase.

BackOnTrack

23n1th wrote: »

Are suggesting I first spend money on licences for Vista basic, home, business, ultimate, windows 7 starter, home, professional and ultimate, xp professional, etc.

Don't be silly why would I do that?

Well if you're going to make sweeping statements such as Windows doesn't jsut work then you should back it up with proper research rather than just making a generalised statement based on a 10 year old OS. Obviously you have no interest in objectivity and would rather just tar all the Windows OS's with the same brush based on an experience of installing an old bit of software on a modern PC.

The fact is that a full up to date version of linux is able to run on that hardware fast whilst if you go the windows route you're stuck with a slow out of date OS or a slow up to date crippled version.

I have windows 7 starter on a netbook and it runs just fine. I'm not going to do any taxing on it as it is a netbook but it can play movies, let me surf and work on spreadsheets and documents without any issue. I also use knoppix on the same netbook at times and it also works fine. If you're finding Windows 7 starter slow and crippled I would suggest you are doing it wrong as it seems to work in a perfectly acceptable fashion for what it is intended to do. Yes linux will provide better performance on a netbook in general but in the day to day tasks I use a netbook for I find no noticeable difference.

23n1th wrote: »

I think again you'll find you're wrong, nothing new there then, if I was you I'd use something like google to find out about M$'s licensing and power they have when it comes to manufacturers before typing.

Wow I'm wrong? This must be why Dell, Acer, HP, Asus etc. have all released linux netbooks. Maybe you should try looking at reality before crying wolf that M$ aren't letting OEM's do things there way. Advent installed an old OS, Advent are the only ones responsible. They had other options available they went with XP for the sole reason that they thought they would sell more with XP installed.

I think that if I'd been continuously wrong throughout a thread, like yourself, I'd consider that or a reboot.

You're obviously running on windows though so maybe for you should: chkdsk BRAIN: /R Maybe you should scan for viruses and defragment as well!

Such wit.

I run multiple OSs of both the linux and windows variety. I'm not a zealot preaching one OS above another and am quite comfortable on most OSs. Unlike your goodself I try look at things objectivley and like to base opinions on experience rather than what I have read on slashdot.

RussJK

I don't think Windows has ever just 'worked' right out of the box, at least until Windows 7. There's always been drivers to install, and you'd often expect at least one device with an error that needed sorting. Back in the Windows 95 days, setting up a network to work with someone else's dialup modem took a lot of work - adding services manually, reinstalling drivers & completing identical steps over and over until it would mysteriously decide to work. I had the time back then to work through it. These days, everything is disappointingly simple to set up by comparison, and it makes you wonder why the average person still asks you for help with it.

I've tried Ubuntu on a number of machines, and was surprised that they brought the Windows experience of crashes to Linux; out of the box, Windows 7 is far more stable than the versions of Ubuntu I've tried. No one could get ralink drivers for the U230 to work on Ubuntu before version 10.04, and I couldn't get HD support for the ATI card even on 10.04. You have to take things on faith when following random Sudo commands from random people on forums when trying to get things going. I don't doubt I could learn how to use it if I had the time and energy - and I was slowly picking things up - but I thought the point of Ubuntu was that it was easy even for non-techies, along with the stability of Linux. I soon lost interest. I'll try it again when they've removed the routine need for terminal commands by putting more into GUIs, and when driver support is better.