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Tyre life???

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  • jase1
    jase1 Posts: 2,308 Forumite
    Suspension problem, definitely.

    I'm not sure about the 306, but the Astra from the same period was known for getting through suspension bushes. When these perished the car was effectively impossible to align properly, and would end up mashing the tyres in exactly the manner you describe.

    I'd take it to a dedicated garage -- not a tyre fitter -- and ask them to give the suspension a thorough inspection. Might be a lot cheaper than another new set of tyres.

    Oh, and if you are thinking of putting this off, then this is one occasion I'd recommend getting hold of some cheap second-hand tyres in the meantime to keep yourself legal -- at least they're not costing too much for the car to destroy them :)
  • bigjl
    bigjl Posts: 6,457 Forumite
    cgraves wrote: »
    As previoulsy stated, the tracking was done when they put on the new tyres, also a wheel balance


    You had tracking done, which is useless if the something like the toe is out.

    You need a full GEOMETRY check, not a four wheel alignment, tracking or anything else that a tyre shop will tell you is sufficient.

    It may be sufficient if your car wasn't wearing out tyres like this, but as your car is doing this then it needs a full geometry check.

    Linky http://www.elitedirect.com/WheelAlignment/Wheel-Alignment.html

    The equipment they use costs upwards of £20k a set, not the £150 set of things the average tyre shop uses.

    You get what you pay for.

    But tracking costs you what? £15/20.

    Full geometry check and adjust starts at £35/40 but if it solves the problem then it is better than getting your tracking done three or four times without any improvement.
  • This hasn't happened before, they usually last ages - we thought maybe they had done a rubbish job on the tracking? The garage he went to offered a discount due to the shortness of time, but didn't mention it could be anything else - it was a FastFit garage
  • colino
    colino Posts: 5,059 Forumite
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    Bear in mind that it doesn't matter if you've just had the tracking done or last looked at it 5 years ago, its not a time issue. You can drop a wheel down a pothole (especially this winter) and knock the geometry out any time.
  • Hammyman
    Hammyman Posts: 9,913 Forumite
    cgraves wrote: »
    As previoulsy stated, the tracking was done when they put on the new tyres, also a wheel balance

    Take it somewhere else. The one time I stupidly let Thick Gits do it, they shafted the job. I had to wait a week before I had time to do it again and in that time, it scrubbed the inside of the tyre bald - literally in a few hundred miles.
  • jase1
    jase1 Posts: 2,308 Forumite
    Must admit, every time I've asked a fast-fit garage to sort out tracking, the car has returned no better and usually with the steering wheel skewed by about 20 degrees in one direction or the other.
  • mikey72
    mikey72 Posts: 14,680 Forumite
    bigjl wrote: »
    You had tracking done, which is useless if the something like the toe is out.


    What did elite tell you the toe was?
  • Mark_Hewitt
    Mark_Hewitt Posts: 2,098 Forumite
    cgraves wrote: »
    Hiya hope someone can advise...my partner had 2 new tyres on his Peugeot 306 on 1st November and the tracking done - he checked yesterday and the inside of the tyres are so worn you can see wires, outsides look fine - he has only done about 2000 miles, is this right? surely they should last llonger than that.
    Thanks

    Tyres should last between 20,000 and 30,000 miles, perhaps up to 40,000 if you're careful with them.
  • cyclonebri1
    cyclonebri1 Posts: 12,827 Forumite
    bigjl wrote: »
    You had tracking done, which is useless if the something like the toe is out.

    But tracking costs you what? £15/20.

    .


    Tracking is toe, either in out or straight, it's toe.

    I'd get it back were it was done 1st of all and give them the chance to recheck their work. Equal wear on both front tyres is usually a tracking issue or a driving one.

    I'd also ask about the driving style of the user.

    Then it's a deeper check of the geometry, and as said the tyres are now very illegal.;)
    I like the thanks button, but ,please, an I agree button.

    Will the grammar and spelling police respect I do make grammatical errors, and have carp spelling, no need to remind me.;)

    Always expect the unexpected:eek:and then you won't be dissapointed
  • bigjl
    bigjl Posts: 6,457 Forumite
    edited 11 March 2011 at 11:17AM
    mikey72 wrote: »
    What did elite tell you the toe was?


    Not sure what you mean mikey?

    When you go to my usual tyre place, Elite, they do an initial check which produces a report, on this will be your cars current state, with the manufacturers limits on there for you to compare.

    They measure Camber, Castor and Toe for the front wheels, including Total Toe and Steer Ahead angle.

    At the rear they check Camber and Toe, check Total Toe and the Thrust Angle.

    Some cars can have the rear Camber and Toe adjusted, some can't, they do this sometimes by fitting special bolts that allow adjustability.

    Toe is the angle the wheels face forward, toe in is when they point towards a point ahead of the vehicle, toe out is when the front wheels point away from any point ahead of the vehicle.

    Note that Elite adjust not just to degrees but also "minutes".


    I have had my cars set up by Elite for well over 10 years, they only got it wrong once, but that was due to a machine that had gone slightly out of calibration, so the steering wheel wasn't centred, they fixed it straight away when I went back.

    Though sometimes I think the measure of a company isn't just how well they do a job, but also how they deal with a small error, in my case they dealt with it professionally and immediately, I would have no problem recommending them to anybody, family and friends included.


    In the OP's position I reckon it is either the Toe is wrong or the Camber is wrong, as far as suspension issues causing the inner edge wear I reckon that lower wishbones are the most likely suspect, MK3 Mondeos are known for wearing the inner edge of the tyre unevenly when the lower wishbones are getting past their best.
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