Motorway driving

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DirectDebacle wrote: »

http://www.theaa.com/driving-school/improve-your-driving/motorway-driving.html

Make sure the course isn't too advanced for you. There are plenty to choose from if you don't like the AA.



When you have received further driver training you will be better placed to make such judgements.

:rotfl::rotfl::rotfl::rotfl:

Best laugh I've had today, I do hope that you are not basing your advice on something the AA told you.

No wonder you are so ill informed.

Mark_Hewitt

boliston wrote: »

This is a classic example of poor lane discipline, as if there are large gaps between lorries the drivers should be returning to lane 1 after overtaking, but are too "scared" that no on will let them out into lane 2 again so they just sit there.

I do wonder about that, but that only helps if they are going to be going at a similar pace to the lorry, or at least significantly slower than the stream of traffic in Lane 2.

If you think of a dual carriageway where the lorries are stationary or some other sort of road block every half mile, if all traffic is wanting to do 70mph then spreading out between the road blocks and then merging again before them gains them nothing.

The only purpose of moving to the left hand lane is to allow those on the right to go faster, but 99% of the time those moving to the left are the ones who are wanting to go faster!

terryw

C_Mababejive wrote: »

Another example..its rare but on a motorway where you join the motorway in lane three,you are faced with lane 1 and 2 traffic going faster and have to pick an opportune moment to move across to 2 then 1. Knob heads refuse to appreciate that you are constrained and insist on undertaking thus leaving you marooned in lane 3 longer than is necessary .

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Thanks for pointing this one out. There is one of these near to where I live and it terrifies me when I have to use it! The problem is compounded in that after joining is lane 3, there is only about five hundred yards before the exit on the lane 1 side that many people including myself have to use.

Mark_Hewitt

terryw wrote: »

Thanks for pointing this one out. There is one of these near to where I live and it terrifies me when I have to use it! The problem is compounded in that after joining is lane 3, there is only about five hundred yards before the exit on the lane 1 side that many people including myself have to use.

This on the central motorway by any chance?

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terryw wrote: »

Thanks for pointing this one out. There is one of these near to where I live and it terrifies me when I have to use it! The problem is compounded in that after joining is lane 3, there is only about five hundred yards before the exit on the lane 1 side that many people including myself have to use.

Lane 1 is the left hand normal driving lane.;)

birkee

Without readiing all the pages, so far I've not seen:-

Use your indicators to indicate your intention, not to indicate what you are doing.

There seems to be a trend these days, of using indicators after the initial turn sequence has started, or even part way through turning a corner.
Other motorists need an indication that you are going to do something other than drive in a straight line.
Should be a common sense habit, not a "this is the law / not the law" or is "necessary / unecessary".

Remember:- An accident is an accident, whether it was your fault or theirs is irrelevant.
(Once knew a feller who wrote off three cars in quick succession, but he was "always in the right".
i.e. waiting to turn right at the traffic lights, and the lights started to change against the oncoming traffic. He starts his right turn, and completely ignores the car coming towards him that ignored the lights, and continued at speed. High speed side on impact, ..... but the other feller was the one in the wrong........Dead is dead!)

5850matty

I was taught NOT to indicate when pulling back into lane 2 or 1 - But that was about 24 years ago ! I drive an Audi q7 now and I don't need to indicate at all any more

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birkee wrote: »

Other motorists need an indication that you are going to do something other than drive in a straight line.

More twaddle, do you indicate to drive around a bend in the road?

No, I thought not.

birkee

Inactive wrote: »

More twaddle, do you indicate to drive around a bend in the road?

No, I thought not.

More pedantic twaddle back, a bend in the road is to all intents and purposes a straight line. Or maintaining your position within a lane.

One that does concern me though, is a couple of people saying, you don't indicate to pull back into lane 1, in case it's confused with an intention to leave the motorway.
Why would someone leave the motorway from lane 2? That IS bad driving!
The other thing coming through, is people quoting their driving instructors. Well the standards of driving I've seen, by learners with instructors. suggests that the instructor should REALLY not be teaching ANYONE to drive. Some of the things I've seen learners do with instructors instructing them, is quite frightening.
My Daughter was taught to approach junctions etc, with the intention of continuing round / through the junction. Of course, she was in totally the wrong gear, and at the wrong speed, to stop, should another vehicle with right of way be approaching.
Some of the instructors are really bad, and shouldn't be quoted as an authority source.

spugzbunny

Personally my rule for indicating when commuting is as follows (and I appreciate this is not neccessarily as the highway code states):

- If I am in free flowing light traffic I do not signal to move back into L1 or L2
- If I am in heavy traffic I usually signal to move back into L1 or L2
- If I am in traffic where L1 is a slip/lane for next exit then I signal.

Examples of my reasoning are:

- I was in a situation once where I wished to moved back into L2 from L3 and the car in L1 also wanted to move into L2. In that case, a signal helped prevent this as we both saw each otehr signal at the same time and he indicated for me to come first.

- In heavy traffic I my wish to overtake some but not all of the cars in a line due to there speed. It is not always obvious IMO when I am going to move back in. For example you have cars doing 70, 70, 70, 73 - I may move behind 73 after overtaking 70,70 & 70.

- The A66 around M'bro has a number of L1s that come directly off a slip road and then leave at the next exit a mile down the road. This L1 then dissapears. In this case I signal whichever way I am moving as traffic needs to pull into the correctlane from all sides.

i think most importantly I use common sense and if I feel the car to my left may not be aware of my intent or may benefit from a reminder then I signal. I don't really see what harm that can do!

As for people saying that you could be confused with exiting the motorway of you signal L2, L1 - well yes I agree BUT on the whole I will not signal when there is a slip road approaching in that way and also that is only maybe 1% of the motorway that that situation occurs in.

One thing I do do - and I would be interested to know peoples responses on whether this is OK or not ... I tend to not move L2 to L1 if I can see a slip road joining in a few meters. I wait until I can see the traffic joining and then judge when best to move over. I do this so that the drivers joining can judge when to move over without me complicating the situation.