Council house rant....

Wee_Willy_Harris

animum wrote: »

the council have provided me with accomodation when I needed it? where on earth have I said that...no, the council are providing me with accomodation 2 years later, thanks, and very grateful I am too.

Then who is providing you with a 2 bed flat to live in?

wrightk

madeupname1 wrote: »

Very happy not to dictate to others what they should do with their lives, provided that they are not asking me, and others like me, to pay for those (often poor) choices through taxation that could be better spent elsewhere.

oh sorry so i dont pay taxes now?no obviously your the only person in the world that works and pays for everyone to 'scrounge off the state'?

everyone pays some sort of tax/vat etc who lives in this country whether they are working or not and that is fed back into the economy, the difference is that people like me do not begrudge paying it, people can make their own choices in life and get whatever help they need because i know that when i need the help i live in a country where it will support me when times are hard, and provide me with what i need to survive.

Wee_Willy_Harris

madeupname1 wrote: »

Very happy not to dictate to others what they should do with their lives, provided that they are not asking me, and others like me, to pay for those (often poor) choices through taxation that could be better spent elsewhere.

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wrightk

hehehehehe

mynameisdave

animum wrote: »

yes homeless....technically was my own word. sorry for any confusion. its a long story but basically you get an official eviction date from the Army, the council (in my area) dont do anything until you have gone over that date. then the Army can literally just throw you out. and if anyone thinks that does not happen..well it does...wether you have children or not, and quite frankly it is quite scary. but then maybe I should stay with an abusive alchy husband_- I dont think so. its only now two years later after "bidding " on every property that comes up, of which round here there are really not a lot...usually around 2 per week ( for my suitability, which is 2 bed) . I work, have a professional job, but cannot work all hours due to a small child. I have no problem with immigrants at all....I would be just as peeved if it was a non immigrant saying what I heard. rents are extortionate and if it wasnt for the help of a very good friend....I would be in a much worse position. why would I want to make up an immigrant? bit bizarre ! I treat plenty of immigrants and non immigrants every day. I just think more checks should be made on peoples true circumstances before they are housed. anyway, thats all I am saying on the matter....I have to go to work soon!

Correct me if I am wrong but an infantry man gets £17,000 and pays very little rent for staying in barracks.

How are you so sure this man was an immigrant? Did he look a bit funny?

ILW

Wee_Willy_Harris wrote: »

That will be because it isn't. We have a well developed benefits system to address those very issues. It's called "being part of the civilised world".

We also have one of the highest rates of teenage pregnancy in the civilised world. Cause and effect. We have a benefits system which actually encourages irresponsibility.

Wee_Willy_Harris

ILW wrote: »

We also have one of the highest rates of teenage pregnancy in the civilised world. Cause and effect. We have a benefits system which actually encourages irresponsibility.

No, we have a benefit system that ensures that we don't have starving children on the streets. Again, it's the "civilised society" bit. The vast majority (97.5%) of teenagers DON'T get pregnant. Interestingly, the highest teenage pregnancy rates in the developed world are found in the USA, with a much harsher benefits regime and very limited social housing. Perhaps EDUCATION is the issue, rather than benefits?

ILW

Education could help, but it is a fact that once on benefits, the more children you have, the bigger house you get. That is quite an incentive for some.
Whereas, if you decide to hold back on having the kids until you can afford to support the, you can virtually forget social housing in most areas.
Does seem to reward the wrong things.

silverchair

Students get an extremely good education in this country. Unfortunately schools also have to do a lot more than teach because so many parents arent actually doing their job. Its all very easy to blame a lot of the problems this country has on kids not having a good education.

Wee_Willy_Harris

ILW wrote: »

Education could help, but it is a fact that once on benefits, the more children you have, the bigger house you get. That is quite an incentive for some.
Whereas, if you decide to hold back on having the kids until you can afford to support the, you can virtually forget social housing in most areas.
Does seem to reward the wrong things.

But the allocation of social housing doesn't depend on the affordability of your children, or even your current housing. Marital status and employment are equaly irrelevant.

Again, the highest tenange pregnancy rate in the developed world is in the USA. Clearly THAT isn't about benefits and social housing.