Signing On

dmg24

Edinburgh65 wrote: »

You never know, depending on how infrequent your buses are, the JC might be quite accommodating if you ask nicely and don't expect. I wouldn't "demand" though. That probably won't get you anywhere fast.

It is all very well people saying that you could easily kill a couple of hours whilst hanging around in town, but you will probably have no spare money to spend, if you are not going to cold call on potential employers.

Do you need money to kill a few hours?

ghost_whistler

McKneff wrote: »

If you want people to help you on this thread you need to back off with the old chip on the shoulder sarcasm.

How far are you away from a possible job, is a bike feasible.
Or a moped.

I don't need to back off at all, thanks. It's a valid point. Transport is an issue for everyone and if someone can't get to a specific job they don't get the job. No amount of gnashing of teeth will change that.

I'm not sure what you mean by 'possible job'; i'm talking about the jobcentre and signing on.

ghost_whistler

Edinburgh65 wrote: »

You never know, depending on how infrequent your buses are, the JC might be quite accommodating if you ask nicely and don't expect. I wouldn't "demand" though. That probably won't get you anywhere fast.

It is all very well people saying that you could easily kill a couple of hours whilst hanging around in town, but you will probably have no spare money to spend, if you are not going to cold call on potential employers.

Again, they are not 'potential employers'. If they aren't looking for staff they aren't potentiallty my employer. Expectng the unemployed to jump through hoops to appease the 'get on your bike' crowd is demeaning and pointless. Nor will doing so provide me with any money.

Edinburgh65

ghost_whistler wrote: »

Again, they are not 'potential employers'. If they aren't looking for staff they aren't potentiallty my employer. Expectng the unemployed to jump through hoops to appease the 'get on your bike' crowd is demeaning and pointless. Nor will doing so provide me with any money.

I fully agree with you, I was just trying to avoid a backlash from other posters truth be told. Whenever i dropped off an unsolicited CV, I was only ever referred to the companies' websites and met with boredom, because they are being bombarded with CVs due to so many people having to keep themselves straight with the JC. In my experience, it was a very demoralising exercise and a total waste of time, but some people are probably luckier.

Edinburgh65

dmg24 wrote: »

Do you need money to kill a few hours?

In theory no, your are right, but sod's law tends to dictate that it will be pouring with rain if you have two hours to kill and no money , so that tends to make the option of sitting on a park bench reading a book pretty unappealing. There aren't very many indoor free places that you can go to. You wouldn't for example want to look at the same paintings in the same art gallery once every two weeks.

Fridge3

ghost_whistler wrote: »

Employers that want staff will make the fact known, no employer doesn't advertise (unless it's internal only) that they want staff and just sits back expecting people to come to them. So expecting the unemployed to jump through hoops is wasting everyone's time, including employers who'd probably rather be working than answering the door to every tom !!!!!! and harry.

If i need to use a bus to get to a job and the buses don't run when the job has its hours then the job goes to someone else. What else woudl you suggest, hire a chauffeur?

Sigh, how about taking responsibility for your situation.

Oldernotwiser

ghost_whistler wrote: »

You would think, wouldn't you.

I certainly would; why don't you?

Oldernotwiser

Edinburgh65 wrote: »

In theory no, your are right, but sod's law tends to dictate that it will be pouring with rain if you have two hours to kill and no money , so that tends to make the option of sitting on a park bench reading a book pretty unappealing. There aren't very many indoor free places that you can go to. You wouldn't for example want to look at the same paintings in the same art gallery once every two weeks.

The obvious answer is the library: internet access: free newspapers; books.

Edinburgh65

It's hardly the OP's fault that he has no transport of his own, and an unreliable bus service.

If there are no regular bus services what would you expect him to do? Let me, guess, walk 3 hours each way in and out of town for his JC appointments, as someone has previously recommended in another older thread (not relating to this OP) as being perfectly acceptable.

People who have not experienced unavoidable or chosen unemployment, seem to presume that Jobseekers have 24 hours a day of doing nothing at their disposal and assume that it is a constant holiday.

If you are a genuine Jobseeker, the opposite will probably be true. You will be on job search mode all the hours that you are awake, 7 days a week, worrying about how you are going to keep a roof over your head and wondering if life will ever be normal again, and the longer that situation continues, the less energy you will have as you become more and more mentally drained.

There are an awful lot of people on this forum (not all of them, I am sure), who have had no experience of having been a hard working and loyal employee, who has fallen on hard times due to no fault of their own, and who are doing their utmost best to get back into employment.

There is such a thing as karma. Could be you one day. I hope that people are more understanding if that ever happens to anyone who is being particularly pious.

BreamoreBoy

ghost_whistler wrote: »

Employers that want staff will make the fact known, no employer doesn't advertise (unless it's internal only) that they want staff and just sits back expecting people to come to them.

Many jobs are never advertised but are filled by networking/grapevine/word of mouth/call it what you like.